need help on cycle

[lee9669]

ok i'm doing a cycle of cyp. i did alot of research on it and heres what i wanna know. Some people say 250mg a week and some people say 500mg a week. whats your opinions? its my first cycle. Also i have pct covered i just want some opinions on which would be better for me. thanks. also how many weeks 10-12 and should i stack anything with it for best results.

[Lunk1]

Are you completely and totally aware or the risks associated with steroid use at your age?

[lee9669]

yes i'm 24 in a month and a half, trust me i peaked in my first few years of high school i was an early grower. thanks for looking out though.

[MickeyKnox]

agree with Sarge. run it out at least 12 wks, especially cyp. your first cycle will produce healthy gains at 250mg/wk. pin it twice at 125 mon am thurs pm.

hcg on cycle and a solid pct.

and don't forget your diet is key to maintaining gains.

[lee9669]

great thanks for input, you thik novladek alone will do the trick or should i get clomid?

[MickeyKnox]

great thanks for input, you thik novladek alone will do the trick or should i get clomid?

here's the transparent truth my friend. i don't use clomid anymore. but i made this choice, not only based on my personal use but, from some compelling arguments and studies.

HOWEVER, it does work, and is STILL part of the standard and widely accepted and current pct protocol. so, for these reasons i do recommend it.

use it yourself, and then decide if it's for you or not. but it does work. i just don't like the sides associated with it. but keep in mind some guys respond differently.

[Lunk1]

agree with Sarge. run it out at least 12 wks, especially cyp. your first cycle will produce healthy gains at 250mg/wk. pin it twice at 125 mon am thurs pm.

hcg on cycle and a solid pct.

and don't forget your diet is key to maintaining gains.

I dont see a post here from Sarge Mick...is it me or have you been drinking tonight

[MickeyKnox]

oh sorry Lunk. i am referring to the OP's original question in his welcome thread. Sarge commented on it and i directed him here for more responses.

[lee9669]

ok i'll try clomid and novladex to start, thanks alot for the help, i'm gonna cycle cyp for 12 weeks then and take your advice it seems to be everyone's opinion for that length. also is it worth it to stack it for my first cycle?

[MickeyKnox]

no don't stack bro. otherwise you'll have no idea which compound is giving you the jimmys if you happen to experience unusual sides. next cycle you can add something if you like.

[kelkel]

High end TRT dosages are up to 200 per week. I'd suggest at least 400mg per week split into two injections. Do you have an AI in hand for this? Other than my opinion on dosage, what Mickey said is on target, as usual.

kel

[lee9669]

400mg instead of 250. it is my first cycle, but thanks for the opinion i;m just trying to see what people think, thanks. And i looked up AI's i was confused, are they used during cycle. or pct as well?

[MickeyKnox]

i also recommend hcg on cycle. if you haven't had a peek at that, chek out this link. it will explain all the benefits.

ive also included a link to Aromatase Inhibitors that Kelkel has suggested.(AI's) take a quick read on that too. they are used on cycle.


HCG

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Pregnyl%29-FAQ

SERM, AI

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

[kelkel]

400mg instead of 250. it is my first cycle, but thanks for the opinion i;m just trying to see what people think, thanks. And i looked up AI's i was confused, are they used during cycle. or pct as well?

I understand it's your first cycle. You're relatively young and your natural production should be very high normally. So, taking a small amount to shut down your HPTA and only raise your T level to arguably a little over normal, is just not worth it, IMO. Hence my TRT reference. Just a thought. Good luck. Be safe and don't start untill all is in hand.

[lee9669]

wow great help thanks alot both of you. i'll need to get something for during the cycle for sure.

[Gi812Many]

^^^Agree with Kelkel