Advice on my first cycle - PRE COMP CYCLE

[RyanGreg]

Some information about myself..

Age: 24
Years bodybuilding: 5
Height: 5'10
Weight: 195
Body fat percentage: currently 12-14% (have dieted down to 6% before)

I have entered 2 bodybuilding comps in the past, this will be my 3rd. My first comp i placed 2nd and most recent comp i took out 1st place. This time i want to step things up. (no drug testing at this comp).

The cycle i will be running.

cycle:

test prop 50mg ED (16 weeks)
Masteron 50mg ED (last 8 weeks)
Aromasin 12.5mg ED (16 weeks) (4 weeks in PCT also)
hcg 250iu 2x per week (last 10 weeks of cycle)

PCT:

Clomid 25/25/25/25 (4 weeks)
Unleashed/post cycle combo (4 weeks)
Aromasin 12.5mg (4 weeks)
DAA powder (16 weeks)
Tribulus (16 weeks)

Any advice would be great.

Thanks.

[Metalject]

In any contest cycle it's normally best not to fully commit to a specific testosterone dose throughout. Towards the end you may very well need to drop it down a bit...then again, you may not. Simply go by how you look. Also, personally I prefer stronger AI's for pre-contest, especially when we're talking about the last few wks. Overall your plan sounds fine. Nothing outrageous and will more than likely be fine.

[RyanGreg]

In any contest cycle it's normally best not to fully commit to a specific testosterone dose throughout. Towards the end you may very well need to drop it down a bit...then again, you may not. Simply go by how you look. Also, personally I prefer stronger AI's for pre-contest, especially when we're talking about the last few wks. Overall your plan sounds fine. Nothing outrageous and will more than likely be fine.

Thanks for your post.

Why do you recommend that i drop the dose down a bit towards the end? I thought the AI would prevent all the water retention/bloat?

I also thought that aromasin was a strong AI? Stronger than Arimidex , you think i should go letro?

[Metalject]

Thanks for your post.

Why do you recommend that i drop the dose down a bit towards the end?

I thought that aromasin was a strong AI? Stronger than Arimidex, you think i should go letro?

The only reason you'd drop the testosterone dose down is to tighten up a little more if needed. As I'm sure you know test can cause water retention.

Aromasin is a good AI, the strongest, no. Arimidex and then Letrozole are both stronger...they'll reduce estrogen far more than Aromasin. Cytadren would be even stronger, although I wouldn't recommend this stuff to anyone as it can be pretty harsh and really a lot of overkill. I think you could be fine with Aromasin but I would personally switch over to a stronger AI at the end just to be on the safe side so that you ensure you're as hard and dry as you can be.

[RyanGreg]

The only reason you'd drop the testosterone dose down is to tighten up a little more if needed. As I'm sure you know test can cause water retention.

Aromasin is a good AI, the strongest, no. Arimidex and then Letrozole are both stronger...they'll reduce estrogen far more than Aromasin. Cytadren would be even stronger, although I wouldn't recommend this stuff to anyone as it can be pretty harsh and really a lot of overkill. I think you could be fine with Aromasin but I would personally switch over to a stronger AI at the end just to be on the safe side so that you ensure you're as hard and dry as you can be.

Yeah ok that makes sense.

Ok i always thought aromasin was stronger than arimidex , i may switch to arimidex then.

Thanks for the posts.

[Metalject]

Aromasin has the ability to lower estrogen according to some studies by as much as 85%...however, some studies have shown it to be significantly less. Arimidex has almost always been shown to suppress estrogen in the mid to high 80's range. Obviously we're not talking about a major difference...I shouldn't have said "far more" in my post above...sorry, it's 5 in the morning and I haven't been to sleep yet...bad insomnia tonight. However, I've read too much conflicting data over the years to convince me that Aromasin is far more powerful than Arimidex. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be convinced but when I consider what I've seen in real life application Arimidex and Letrozole seem to work a little better in a pre-comp situation.

[RyanGreg]

Aromasin has the ability to lower estrogen according to some studies by as much as 85%...however, some studies have shown it to be significantly less. Arimidex has almost always been shown to suppress estrogen in the mid to high 80's range. Obviously we're not talking about a major difference...I shouldn't have said "far more" in my post above...sorry, it's 5 in the morning and I haven't been to sleep yet...bad insomnia tonight. However, I've read too much conflicting data over the years to convince me that Aromasin is far more powerful than Arimidex. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be convinced but when I consider what I've seen in real life application Arimidex and Letrozole seem to work a little better in a pre-comp situation.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

[Capebuffalo]

Test
Tren a
Mast
Winny
Clen
T3
Hcg
Ai

Stronger pct. clomid and novla

[warmouth]

Test
Tren a
Mast
Winny
Clen
T3
Hcg
Ai

Stronger pct. clomid and novla

Jeez! I wish I knoew ifmy body could handle that cycle. That would be amazing. I know for a fact Clen is too much for me, and Tren I am onthe fence about. OP, that cycle you proposed is interesting. 16 weeks of ED shots would kill me! SOunds cool though if possible.

[Capebuffalo]

Jeez! I wish I knoew ifmy body could handle that cycle. That would be amazing. I know for a fact Clen is too much for me, and Tren I am onthe fence about. OP, that cycle you proposed is interesting. 16 weeks of ED shots would kill me! SOunds cool though if possible.

You settle down
Walk first brother.. We will get you there over time

[RyanGreg]

Test
Tren a
Mast
Winny
Clen
T3
Hcg
Ai

Stronger pct. clomid and novla

I always thought that nova was shit for PCT now? Thought that was old school stuff?

[RyanGreg]

Whats better/stronger aromasin or arimidex ?

[RyanGreg]

Bump for my above questions ^^

[lovbyts]

Bump for the Troll who has now done 6 cycles since this post. hahahahaha

[panntastic]

Bump for the Troll who has now done 6 cycles since this post. hahahahaha

Hahaha

[lovbyts]

Correction, at least one of those cycles was 16 weeks. you do the math. LOL

i don't know i think like 5 or 6?

5'9 189lbs (i competed at 186lbs) body fat is very low at current.

I have run test/tren /mast/winny before for 16 weeks no problems.,,,

16 weeks test prop @ 50mg ED
14 weeks mast @ 100mg ED
12 weeks tren @ 50mg ED
8 weeks winny @ 50md ED

[fit2bOld]

That's what Ive been saying all along.
TROLL!