PCT for 8-10 week test only cycle.

[DAAS]

Is this a ok PCT for 8 week test P or 10 week test E?

50mg clomid ED for 4 weeks
20mg Nolva ED for four weeks
then 20mg Nolva EOD for 1.5weeks.

Should I front load the nolva say 40MG for the first 5 days?

What AI usage would be best?

[jimmyinkedup]

I would frontload the nolva yes.
As far as ai goes id recommend adex or aromasin (anastrazole or exemestane if you will) dosage ehhh .5mg eod adex / 12.5mg eod aromasin
Run the ai up to pct.

[Squats33]

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Figured it out!

[DAAS]

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[DAAS]

I would frontload the nolva yes.
As far as ai goes id recommend adex or aromasin (anastrazole or exemestane if you will) dosage ehhh .5mg eod adex / 12.5mg eod aromasin
Run the ai up to pct.

I have about a gram of arimadex. I need to put it in solution but my scale isnt the best.
wouldnt a AI be useful in the first week or two in PCT as-well?

[jimmyinkedup]

I have about a gram of arimadex. I need to put it in solution but my scale isnt the best.
wouldnt a AI be useful in the first week or two in PCT as-well?

Not in my opinion no. Where does estrogen come from? Testosterone . How much testosterone will you have to convert to estrogen when after 2 weeks (when u start pct) the test e is gone and there is no endogenous test being produced? You wont have any ...thus very liitle to no estrogen. So why use an ai ?

[DAAS]

Well I thought AI's have been used to promote endogenous Test by eliminating the estrogen, thus tricking your body to produce testosterone .
I thought I read that AI could be helpful doing the first week or two in a PCT. But I do see your point.
Any one else? Swifto?

[MickeyKnox]

Well I thought AI's have been used to promote endogenous Test by eliminating the estrogen, thus tricking your body to produce testosterone .
I thought I read that AI could be helpful doing the first week or two in a PCT. But I do see your point.
Any one else? Swifto?

they have been and they are. but there is more than one way to skin a cat. personally i would rather use a serm to kick start my hpta thus increasing my test output but NOT suppressing my e2 at the same time. using an ai like aromasin during pct will increase test but it will suppress your e2. and imho, e2 is important to maintain healthy levels - being too low is not healthy. in fact, it inhibits your ability to build and maintain muscle.

[jimmyinkedup]

You have to remember if you have no e2 then feedback loop is already in effect.
BTW Swifto has stated on numerous occasions he does not believe in using an ai in pct.

[DAAS]

they have been and they are. but there is more than one way to skin a cat. personally i would rather use a serm to kick start my hpta thus increasing my test output but NOT suppressing my e2 at the same time. using an ai like aromasin during pct will increase test but it will suppress your e2. and imho, e2 is important to maintain healthy levels - being too low is not healthy. in fact, it inhibits your ability to build and maintain muscle.

true but I am talking about the first week only. Having no test is more detrimental to muscle then not having estrogen. Get those test levels up fast! I guess it is a debatable issue.

[DAAS]

You have to remember if you have no e2 then feedback loop is already in effect.
BTW Swifto has stated on numerous occasions he does not believe in using an ai in pct.

gotcha man! thanks.

SO Nolva 40mg first 5 days, 20mg 4 weeks, 20mg eod final week.
Clomid 4 weeks 50mg.

I remember reading to continue using Nolva for a week or two after stopping clomid. for I believe estrogen rebound from clomid?

[DAAS]

I also think that I read Nolva is a ED only supp. So 10mg ed would be best but mine are in caps. IS this an issue? SHould I just go 20mg to the end or is EOD ok?

[jimmyinkedup]

I would just run 20 to the end. I did tht for one or 2 extra weeks everytime i ran deca or tren .