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    Equipoise question

    Heard from a few people about Equipoise and how it helps with endurance as well as strength gains. I am in need of something that will help my cardio/endurance running. I also heard that its best to take it with a weaker test if you dont want to get super big so its noticeable. looking for any info from people who have actually took it and what dosages they took and any side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisheye48 View Post
    Heard from a few people about Equipoise and how it helps with endurance as well as strength gains. I am in need of something that will help my cardio/endurance running. I also heard that its best to take it with a weaker test if you dont want to get super big so its noticeable. looking for any info from people who have actually took it and what dosages they took and any side effects
    I will give you the best advise you will recieve on EQ. Sit down and grab a pen and paper so that you can right this down. It;s that important.

    Ok...are you ready?

    Take the EQ vial tight in your right hand, bring your arm back behind you, now throw that crap as far as you can!

    EQ is junk...sorry it's just the way it is. Abot the only benifit to EQ is added appetite.

    Sorry if my sarcastic answer was only funny to me.

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    I started at 400mg/wk and upped it to 600mg/wk, I ran 600mg of test enan with it for 12 wks. I think more than anything its getting me hard as a rock, but I am growing well with the test. It's a long ester and needs time to build up, you have to run test with it as it suppresses natty test production. I don't train long run or cycle more than 10 miles, I train sprints and other speed drills on the field for my cardio, but I think it has given me a hardness that I never had. With that said I'm sure everyone will go on with the bashing of EQ. It will raise rbc count, but it hasn't bothered me so far. If your gonna run it with say 200mg of test go 16 wks. Do you have pct and ai in place? What about diet? Please tell me your not fat and wanting to cut with EQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I will give you the best advise you will recieve on EQ. Sit down and grab a pen and paper so that you can right this down. It;s that important.

    Ok...are you ready?

    Take the EQ vial tight in your right hand, bring your arm back behind you, now throw that crap as far as you can!

    EQ is junk...sorry it's just the way it is. Abot the only benifit to EQ is added appetite.

    Sorry if my sarcastic answer was only funny to me.
    blah blah blah......that's all I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwell001 View Post
    blah blah blah......that's all I heard.
    OUCH! You stealing my line man lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    OUCH! You stealing my line man lol.
    I guess I will have to apologize for that......where my wife at?

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    Lol funny thread any one got the real scoop on eq

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwell001 View Post
    I guess I will have to apologize for that......where my wife at?
    Hold on I will get her for ya j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I will give you the best advise you will recieve on EQ. Sit down and grab a pen and paper so that you can right this down. It;s that important.

    Ok...are you ready?

    Take the EQ vial tight in your right hand, bring your arm back behind you, now throw that crap as far as you can!

    EQ is junk...sorry it's just the way it is. Abot the only benifit to EQ is added appetite.

    Sorry if my sarcastic answer was only funny to me.
    How many times have you ran eq?
    What have you stacked it with?
    What doses have you used?

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    Nothing super about EQ. I've run it once and currently as part of a stack at 800mg/wk. The primary benefit is increased appetite due to the relatively low androgenic ratio. So many other superior compounds you could opt for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noon View Post
    Lol funny thread any one got the real scoop on eq
    The real scoop is there are alot of varied opinions on EQ. I think if you took a poll the nays would have it but that imo.

    I will say that if you are one of those guys that is never hungry and needs to eat it may serve you a purpose. It was really made for horses and that was it's intention. Getting them to eat.

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    I've ran it twice. Once was in 1998 or 1999. A friend of mine had a boatload of the stuff and i heard that it would harden me up. So my partner and i got some and didn't notice anything. Ran it for probably 14-16 weeks as that was norm for me then. And can't remember exact doses but i'm sure it was at or above recommended dosage.

    Second time was in late 2004 as i brushed off the previous cycle as weak stuff. Well, i ran either 600 or 800mgs per week for 14-16 weeks w/the same outcome. It MIGHT have increased my appetite but it's hard to say as i eat like a horse as it is.

    Needless to say, i haven't touched the stuff since.

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    That's solid info because I was thinking of using it with sus 250 over the winter
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    How many times have you ran eq?
    What have you stacked it with?
    What doses have you used?
    I hear you. The only other person that I know that's ran EQ is Gix, I think everyone else is piggybacking off others statements. Gix does not like it, he has told me this several times. I have had a good experience with it and like it, but I do not just bodybuilder, endurance and stamina comes first with me.

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    I'm using right now at 900mg a week. It has helped my hunger a lot. My metabolism is very high and my maintenance is 3700 calories. I was having a hard time eating 4000+ everyday. Now I can munch down 4500 easy. I am pretty much using it to help my appetite. Even after huge meals I don't feel full for more than hour and can snack again. So its worth it for me. I'm not expecting any gains from it. Ill let the other compounds do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    How many times have you ran eq?
    What have you stacked it with?
    What doses have you used?
    Me run EQ..nope! I have no need to put stuff in me and waste money when I know the outcome. I know a half dozen guys that have run it and I know one that likes it!

    I also dont need to swim in a pool full of great whites to know the outcome.

    I ahve spent enough time using what works and reading about what doesnt to make good decisions.

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    I ran it twice. @500 and at 850. Nothing but hunger, extremely high RBC numbers and virtually no gains. Too many other compounds out there to waste money on EQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Me run EQ..nope! I have no need to put stuff in me and waste money when I know the outcome. I know a half dozen guys that have run it and I know one that likes it!

    I also dont need to swim in a pool full of great whites to know the outcome.

    I ahve spent enough time using what works and reading about what doesnt to make good decisions.
    Lol shut up then. I can't vote yes or no for eq, but I do know some people that love the stuff. I got a few dozen grams of it, so i'll report back after I run it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    I'm using right now at 900mg a week. It has helped my hunger a lot. My metabolism is very high and my maintenance is 3700 calories. I was having a hard time eating 4000+ everyday. Now I can munch down 4500 easy. I am pretty much using it to help my appetite. Even after huge meals I don't feel full for more than hour and can snack again. So its worth it for me. I'm not expecting any gains from it. Ill let the other compounds do that
    I agree its not that anabolic , but it has other purposes other than just to put on size, like I said different strokes for different folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    Lol shut up then. I can't vote yes or no for eq, but I do know some people that love the stuff. I got a few dozen grams of it, so i'll report back after I run it.
    Shut up then...?????? Just because I havn't stuck every compound known to man in my body doesn't mean I am clueless. You do the math. Look above at all who said they have or are running it and see how many think it's good? I know exactly what EQ is and does. I dont need to stick it in my ass to know the outcome. Only kids have to try every stupid thing for themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Shut up then...?????? Just because I havn't stuck every compound known to man in my body doesn't mean I am clueless. You do the math. Look above at all who said they have or are running it and see how many think it's good? I know exactly what EQ is and does. I dont need to stick it in my ass to know the outcome. Only kids have to try every stupid thing for themselves!
    Agree with you Lunk. Only reason I'm stacking it is to use up old supply and bump appetite. Otherwise it's certainly not cost effective or beneficial (unless maybe if you're a race horse).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Shut up then...?????? Just because I havn't stuck every compound known to man in my body doesn't mean I am clueless. You do the math. Look above at all who said they have or are running it and see how many think it's good? I know exactly what EQ is and does. I dont need to stick it in my ass to know the outcome. Only kids have to try every stupid thing for themselves!
    I vote yes, and sholva and dsm want to know just what have you stuck in your ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwell001 View Post
    I vote yes, and sholva and dsm want to know just what have you stuck in your ass?
    I just sent your wife home so she could help with that appology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwell001 View Post
    I vote yes, and sholva and dsm want to know just what have you stuck in your ass?
    I am also interested

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    Why lord oh why do they have to get my blood boiling for a 3rd day....take it easy fellas I got alot of tren in me

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwell001
    I hear you. The only other person that I know that's ran EQ is Gix, I think everyone else is piggybacking off others statements. Gix does not like it, he has told me this several times. I have had a good experience with it and like it, but I do not just bodybuilder, endurance and stamina comes first with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Why lord oh why do they have to get my blood boiling for a 3rd day....take it easy fellas I got alot of tren in me
    come on lunk, just ****in with ya. Oh yeah, my wife said your a bitch.

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    I know many guys arent fans of EQ but i personally like it

    THe thing is I know not to expect much out of it. A larger dosage is needed for an extended period of time. From this I notice increased vascularity, better cardiovascular shape while on tren , and increased appetite.

    With that said, all of the things I mentioned are not huge increases. THey are noticeable but EQ is no miracle drug.

    I only use EQ as an aid to a more advanced cycle. It is never one of the main components of my cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12
    I know many guys arent fans of EQ but i personally like it

    THe thing is I know not to expect much out of it. A larger dosage is needed for an extended period of time. From this I notice increased vascularity, better cardiovascular shape while on tren , and increased appetite.

    With that said, all of the things I mentioned are not huge increases. THey are noticeable but EQ is no miracle drug.

    I only use EQ as an aid to a more advanced cycle. It is never one of the main components of my cycle
    Have you ever had a problem with RBCs? I generally run it for short periods so it has never presented a problem but it is the most common risk. Proponents of EQ advocate donating blood but I've never known anyone to run it long enough or at high enough doses to necessitate blood donations to control RBC levels. Curious about your experience though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    Have you ever had a problem with RBCs? I generally run it for short periods so it has never presented a problem but it is the most common risk. Proponents of EQ advocate donating blood but I've never known anyone to run it long enough or at high enough doses to necessitate blood donations to control RBC levels. Curious about your experience though.
    I believe Marcus was actually hospitalized over it at one time
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    ive never used it but i have 5 bottles of it staring at me, and quite frankly im can't wait to drive it into me. i don't belive all the negative hype surrounding this compound. but im sure there are some guys it just doesn't do much for, but that doesn't mean it flat out doesn't work. it was designed for endurance and race horses i believe. and there are a LOT of guys that have had postitive resulst from using it..and yes with little test along with it so as to really know if the eq is working or not. just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I believe Marcus was actually hospitalized over it at one time
    i believe some other guy was hospitalized over enth too. pretty sure prop as well. and maybe sust too. you get my point im sure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    i believe some other guy was hospitalized over enth too. pretty sure prop as well. and maybe sust too. you get my point im sure..
    I was referring to the issue of having to high of rbc
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I was referring to the issue of having to high of rbc
    ahhh i see. ok. just my knee jerk reaction to eq because it get such an unnecessary pounding

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    ahhh i see. ok. just my knee jerk reaction to eq because it get such an unnecessary pounding
    I'll give you an unnecessary pounding if you do it again
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    ^^ hahahaha

    touche!

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    I think you have to be conscious of it, but most people that run EQ don't run it for size. There are much better compounds for that, but if you want to get fast, lubricated joints, and hard as a ****ing rock then run it. I have talked to 3 people on this board who have ran 800+ without a rbc problem, but they know what to expect and how to attack the problems that may come. Not really a big deal I don't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

    I believe Marcus was actually hospitalized over it at one time
    OMG! Seriously!?! That's the first I've heard of someone having such serious complications. I've seen BW where RBCs were elevated but below "panic" ranges. If he sees this thread, maybe he can comment more. I've never used it for long periods because, as most have stated, I never really notice dramatic effects and the cost:benefit wrt to health & economics isn't favorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwell001 View Post
    I think you have to be conscious of it, but most people that run EQ don't run it for size. There are much better compounds for that, but if you want to get fast, lubricated joints, and hard as a ****ing rock then run it. I have talked to 3 people on this board who have ran 800+ without a rbc problem, but they know what to expect and how to attack the problems that may come. Not really a big deal I don't think.
    Fair enough Greenwell an tell the wife it takes one to ...nah, not going there

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    OMG! Seriously!?! That's the first I've heard of someone having such serious complications. I've seen BW where RBCs were elevated but below "panic" ranges. If he sees this thread, maybe he can comment more. I've never used it for long periods because, as most have stated, I never really notice dramatic effects and the cost:benefit wrt to health & economics isn't favorable.
    What would you consider dangerous in blood work levels
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