Revised stack/cycle -feel free to get your +1's

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 03:59 PM

Well, after a long and education read (new member here), I have revised my stack.
I was going to do Tren , Test, Masteron , and Equipoise . I don't think my bf% yet justifies the Masteron and Equipoise. I would tentatively guess its in the 20% range,
I'm 6ft3 235lbs, 44y.o (really old) and I usually lift about 6 days/week. I've been going steady to the gym for about 2years +\- I'm a 23 year Paramedic, 3kids, and I currently work on oil/gas rigs in the great Canadian North
I add this info because I'm in camp 2weeks in 2weeks out and meals are made for us (I always take the healthiest options available) lots of chicken fish and steak available.
I have decided that I will limit my stack to Test400x 400ml/week and tri-Trenx 100ml E.D ...I shall use Nolvadex throughout my cycle.
My supplements throughout include ; isoflex protien, and the Ripped Freak line,
I have previously done a Tren Ace/Test Prop stack twice with positive results, but thought the slight tweak in the compounds might facilitate even more tangible results... I'm totally open to any feedback, very interested to hear from the people here that are experienced with using these and what I can expect.. Also, when am I able to post pics of myself (hardly a work of art, more of a work in progress) but I think it would give people a better idea where I'm at visually. I'd also like to post pics of my namesake

Thanks everyone in advance !

**Lunk1** · 09-29-2012, 04:04 PM

Pics takes 50 posts I believe.

waht is the mg/ML of your tren ???

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 04:21 PM

Trenbolone Acetate: 50mgs
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate: 50mgs
Trenbolone Enanthate : 50mgs

**stpete** · 09-29-2012, 04:37 PM

How long do you plan on running this cycle? Why nolva during cycle and not during PCT? How about HCG ? And you mention 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Does this cause a conflict in workouts? And what does your PCT look like?

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

How long do you plan on running this cycle? Why nolva during cycle and not during PCT? How about HCG? And you mention 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Does this cause a conflict in workouts? And what does your PCT look like?

I an on a 10 week cycle, I'm sorry, I wrote that poorly, the Nova in my PCT. I'll have to look up what HCG is and edit this with the answer lol..
Yes the shift work does cause conflict with my cycle, I live In a pretty small town (Dawson Creek), there are only two gyms, neither have childcare and my wife usually works day shifts when I'm home, by the time dinner is done and kids are on bed the gym is closed and they don't open early enough for me to go before everyone starts their day...frustrating as hell really. I do a lot of pushups, crunches, and dumbell free weights at home, as much as I can on those days. My PCT will be 2weeks at 40mg-Nolvadex
2weeks at 20mg, 2weeks at 10mg

**gixxerboy1** · 09-29-2012, 04:47 PM

also your still using the same chemicals as the other cycles. So i wouldnt expect much differences.
I agree the nolva should be for pct
you need an ai and hcg for on cycle

I would also look into getting you bf% down a little.
And if can you train on those 2 weeks?

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

also your still using the same chemicals as the other cycles. So i wouldnt expect much differences.
I agree the nolva should be for pct
you need an ai and hcg for on cycle

I would also look into getting you bf% down a little.
And if can you train on those 2 weeks?

Would my doctor prescribe HCG ? And what is AI pls?
Training is possible on those two weeks but it is a question of life interfering with desire... It becomes a situation where I have to plan my whole day Ie. babysitter for 1.5 hours (pick up/drop off) and so on. Not making excuses, just calling like it is.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-29-2012, 04:59 PM

ai = aromatase inhibitor common ones are a-dex and aromasin
doubt your dr would have a reason to prescribe you hcg

**Lunk1** · 09-29-2012, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by 73mustang

Would my doctor prescribe HCG ? And what is AI pls?
Training o's possible on those two weeks but it is a question of life interfering with desire... It becomes a situation where I have to plan my whole day Ie. babysitter for 1.5 hours (pick up/drop off) and so on.

Sorry to sound crappy here but that kind off the whole point of steroids ...they are not a quick fix or aband aid for lack of dedication. Alot of ppl make huge sacrifices to dedicate themselves to this lifestyle. If you are not dedicated to your workouts and obviously not extremely dedicated to your diet then quite frankly AAS is a waste of $$$ and needles in your bumb

**Lunk1** · 09-29-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

ai = aromatase inhibitor common ones are a-dex and aromasin
doubt your dr would have a reason to prescribe you hcg

There are quite a few doing it around here for weight loss (of course if I eat 500 cals aday I will weigh nothing in a short time as well)

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Sorry to sound crappy here but that kind off the whole point of steroids...they are not a quick fix or aband aid for lack of dedication. Alot of ppl make huge sacrifices to dedicate themselves to this lifestyle. If you are not dedicated to your workouts and obviously not extremely dedicated to your diet then quite frankly AAS is a waste of $$$ and needles in your bumb

I appreciate your honesty Lunk, I'm not offended lol. We moved to this town <2years ago for work, we have 2 friends here, they both work. My days start at 0500 and end at 2100 when I get the kids to bed after having made dinner for everyone (I know I'll make someone a fine wife one day)
I think it would be frowned upon having my 3y.o lil girlie running around the gym lol. It's really hard , and of you have kids you know what I mean, If you don't ...walk a mile on my shoes... Not trying to argue, but my dedication lacks nothing, in camp I go everyday, I have dropped 40 lbs in a year. My diet improves with education, it's not from lack of commitment. It has changed 100% over the last 2years, with noticeable improvements.

**kelkel** · 09-29-2012, 05:20 PM

I seriously think you should wait a bit before you start this. Spend more time here reading the stickies above this forum and learning from the membership here. Spend some time in the other forums as well.

Read this thread about AI's: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

I would also suggest getting complete blood work done prior to starting so you have reference points. Be sure to include a full hormone panel and a sensitive E2 assay. There's a list in the HRT Forum in the Finding a Physician sticky that may help. We're not kids anymore and it's really a wise thing to do.

Good luck with this. Let us know how you make out and welcome to the forum!

**Lunk1** · 09-29-2012, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by 73mustang

I appreciate your honesty Lunk, I'm not offended lol. We moved to this town <2years ago for work, we have 2 friends here, they both work. My days start at 0500 and end at 2100 when I get the kids to bed after having made dinner for everyone (I know I'll make someone a fine wife one day)
I think it would be frowned upon having my 3y.o lil girlie running around the gym lol. It's really hard , and of you have kids you know what I mean, If you don't ...walk a mile on my shoes... Not trying to argue, but my dedication lacks nothing, in camp I go everyday, I have dropped 40 lbs in a year. My diet improves with education, it's not from lack of commitment. It has changed 100% over the last 2years, with noticeable improvements.

I do have a kid...well almost an adult here shortly so yeah. Been there. Working 2 and even sometimes three jobs. Working different shift than the wife. School and sporting activites, Coached ball. Yeah...I def. feel ya.

I just know that AAS is a SMALL portion of the game. Diet is 60% Gym is 30% and AAS is maybe 10%. It isnt woth it if the rest of the things are not dialed in correctly. Have you considered a home gym. I am not a fan but some like them very well!

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

I seriously think you should wait a bit before you start this. Spend more time here reading the stickies above this forum and learning from the membership here. Spend some time in the other forums as well.

I would also suggest getting complete blood work done prior to starting so you have reference points. Be sure to include a full hormone panel and a sensitive E2 assay. There's a list in the HRT Forum in the Finding a Physician sticky that may help. We're not kids anymore and it's really a wise thing to do.

Good luck with this. Let us know how you make out and welcome to the forum!

Thank you very much, this is invaluable info for me, I fully plan on having a full blood workup done prior to starting, I will educate myself on aI's.. I read and learn everyday and will continue to do so. For 23 years my life has revolved around patho-physiology, I believe I will be a quick learner ( I hope ).
To touch briefly on commitment for the last time, i am very familiar with commitment, it has been a huge part of my life, from when I served my country in the Airborne, to being a semi-pro athlete, to being a committed Father and Husband, and 23 years now being the best Paramedic I can for my patients, if anyone is more familiar with commitment I'd like to know them. I am new to this, but my commitment is high, as always. I will find a way.. If the gym stayed open 2 more hours all my problems would be solved ><

**Lunk1** · 09-29-2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by 73mustang

Thank you very much, this is invaluable info for me, I fully plan on having a full blood workup done prior to starting, I will educate myself on aI's.. I read and learn everyday and will continue to do so. For 23 years my life has revolved around patho-physiology, I believe I will be a quick learner ( I hope ).
To touch briefly on commitment for the last time, i am very familiar with commitment, it has been a huge part of my life, from when I served my country in the Airborne, to being a semi-pro athlete, to being a committed Father and Husband, and 23 years now being the best Paramedic I can for my patients, if anyone is more familiar with commitment I'd like to know them. I am new to this, but my commitment is high, as always.

Good Luck to ya man!!! Keep us posted and holla if ya need any help!

**kelkel** · 09-29-2012, 05:55 PM

Like Lunk said, consider a home gym. It can work with some basic minimal equipment. I've worked out in my basement for about 8 years now by myself. Haven't set foot in a gym in that time. Basic equipment and old school but you can get by.

kel

**73mustang** · 09-29-2012, 06:21 PM

Just ordered Aromasin ,and I already have the Nolvadex . Thanks for the great advice, will definitely keep you posted and will post some before and after pics... My hope is with a hardcore (proper) diet and everything else in place, to lose 15 lbs of bf in the 10 weeks of my cycle and add a little more muscle, I believe this to be a realistic goal, and will get me back to where I should be.