First time clen

**qscgugcsq** · 10-17-2012, 05:28 PM

I'm 19/170 lbs/13% bf(higher than normal)--- Want do cut down to 1 digit number. (I carry this fat(particulary in lower back) for more than 10 years, diet can't get rid of it.)

Will have L-taurine/potassium/plenty of water on hand

For a first cycle with clenbuterol . What's better:

2 weeks on/off or straight cycle

Does ketotifen must be used on on/off cycle?
If no, Does the ketotifen will increase the efficiency even if not needed?
And what's the dose required?
What's the standard dosage of Ketotifen on straight cycle(the dosage of clen will me moderate(certainly won't exceed 120mcg))??

Thanks

**Phased** · 10-17-2012, 05:35 PM

This is a must read and can explain in detail without us having to write it all down again, please refer to it often
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...terol-handbook

**ScotchGuard02** · 10-18-2012, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

I'm 19/170 lbs/13% bf(higher than normal)--- Want do cut down to 1 digit number. (I carry this fat(particulary in lower back) for more than 10 years, diet can't get rid of it.)

Will have L-taurine/potassium/plenty of water on hand

For a first cycle with clenbuterol . What's better:

2 weeks on/off or straight cycle

I ran clen straight for 4 weeks with no break using keto + clen. Worked well. Get ready for the shakes.

Does ketotifen must be used on on/off cycle?

I took keto everyday before bed. It's an antihistamine so it'll make you drowsy. Best to take it before bed and get a good sleep.

If no, Does the ketotifen will increase the efficiency even if not needed?
And what's the dose required?
What's the standard dosage of Ketotifen on straight cycle(the dosage of clen will me moderate(certainly won't exceed 120mcg))??

I max'd out at 100mcg/ed and it still worked fine. 120mcg/ed is fine also.

Thanks

I hate the way I feel on clen. The shakes, cold sweat, raised blood pressure, cramps, etc. It just sucks. But I love the way I look when I'm done.

**Matt** · 10-18-2012, 04:01 AM

I shall move this thread for you mate to the 18 to 25 forum......

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I hate the way I feel on clen. The shakes, cold sweat, raised blood pressure, cramps, etc. I just sucks. But I love the way I look when I'm done.

Man I get none of those, have you tried stacking it with t4-150mcg and lowering the clen to 40-60mcg?

**Matt** · 10-18-2012, 06:08 AM

Its funny because ive loved running clen in the past and seen great results. just goes to show how different we all are......

**kronik420** · 10-18-2012, 06:37 AM

im on clen atm, took 160mcg today. sides only last for about an hour or so after i take it. even then there pretty mild.

**gixxerboy1** · 10-18-2012, 07:19 AM

you should be checking HR and body temp to adjust your dose. Sides are not a reliable way to dose your clen

**qscgugcsq** · 10-18-2012, 07:28 AM

kronik do you take keto too?

**kronik420** · 10-18-2012, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

kronik do you take keto too?

no, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

you take keto if you want to do say, 6 weeks straight..

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by kronik420

im on clen atm, took 160mcg today. sides only last for about an hour or so after i take it. even then there pretty mild.

Do you have any idea what damage you are doing to your heart at those dosages in length of time. If you only knew.

**qscgugcsq** · 10-19-2012, 04:31 PM

it's nice to see that it works for lots of you guys but it is possible to know a bit more about your stats before and after and the exact comp of you cycle it would be greatly appreciate(i know its 90% diet related but it can still gives a good idea)

personnal experience is very interesting