telling your doctor

[Firepal]

I have read that telling your doctor the truth about using steriods is a very bad idea. But ive read of some posts where people say to do it :/ I live in Canada does anyone know if it matters in my country?

[austinite]

Dont know anything about Canada, but here in the US, I would never ever mention it.

[Lunk1]

Dont know anything about Canada, but here in the US, I would never ever mention it.

Only in a dire emergency!!!!

[MickeyKnox]

Canada is the LAST place you want to mention that. well, maybe second to Aus.

but seriously, we (Canada) are so behind the USA when it comes to Dr's being open minded, or worse, TRT/HRT, it isn't even funny anymore..it's just plain disturbing. do not mention this to your Dr. or he will blame everything you complain about on your steroid "abuse".

[Lunk1]

Canada is the LAST place you want to mention that. well, maybe second to Aus.

but seriously, we (Canada) are so behind the USA when it comes to Dr's being open minded, or worse, TRT/HRT, it isn't even funny anymore..it's just plain disturbing. do not mention this to your Dr. or he will blame everything you complain about on your steroid "abuse".

But he will treat you for free

[Sworder]

I would inquire about lipids, blood pressure, heart rate, PSA test maybe one a year, hemoglobin/hematocrit every 3 months what else am I missing...

Knowing yourself what kind of things you may be disturbing is good. That way you can ask to take certain test you should be taking if you are cycling. Asking for a hormone panel from your GP will send a red flag if you are worried about that. They should be done after each cycle, few do.

[MickeyKnox]

But he will treat you for free

there's a pet peeve of mine. its not free! we pay for it, it's part of our national debt! same reason they want to find a cure for cancer. it's not because our gov loves us so much, they simply want to reduce the medical costs which are incidentally mounting into the billions! they dont mind if you die, but do it quickly so it doesn't cost the country any money.

[capetown]

there's a pet peeve of mine. its not free! we pay for it, it's part of our national debt! same reason they want to find a cure for cancer. it's not because our gov loves us so much, they simply want to reduce the medical costs which are incidentally mounting into the billions! they dont mind if you die, but do it quickly so it doesn't cost the country any money.

Up until last year Alberta paid a premium every month for health care just like the USA. If you wanted health care you paid for it. They took it out because of the surplus Alberta had but im thinking thats its coming back soon. I think it was 90 a month per person. It was illegal not to have it. If you didnt pay, your monthly bill just kept adding up. They still werent allowed to refuse health care though.

[lovbyts]

I have read that telling your doctor the truth about using steriods is a very bad idea. But ive read of some posts where people say to do it :/ I live in Canada does anyone know if it matters in my country?

Put it this way, it's comparable to telling your wife you have been having an affair the 17 year old baby sitter. How safe would that be. You decide.

BTW, I didnt tell the wife. LOL

[kronik420]

how are you supposed to get blood work done without telling your doc?? i was planning on doing before and after bloods with my first cycle, sometime next year, but yea telling my doc that i want to get my hormones checked bcoz i plan on using AAS doesn't sound like too good of an idea.... might try it on a new doc...

[lovbyts]

how are you supposed to get blood work done without telling your doc?? i was planning on doing before and after bloods with my first cycle, sometime next year, but yea telling my doc that i want to get my hormones checked bcoz i plan on using AAS doesn't sound like too good of an idea.... might try it on a new doc...

Just tell him/her you want your hormone levels checked for the before test. Either complain about something for the after and have it re checked or pay for it yourself online. Especially in Au I would think telling them is a BIG no no same as in the US.

[krugerr]

Ouch for the people living on the US, Canada or Aus. I know that obviously were have different laws in the UK regarding the use of AAS, but doctors here are fine with it. My brother and dad both have told their Doctor of use and they get regular bloodwork and tests done.
My Girlfriend wants me to get my bloodwork done, so I will soon.

[kronik420]

Just tell him/her you want your hormone levels checked for the before test. Either complain about something for the after and have it re checked or pay for it yourself online. Especially in Au I would think telling them is a BIG no no same as in the US.

didnt know you could order tests online, will have to google it see if this is possible in oz..

[Sfla80]

I live in southern states of USA. Had to go to doc because I ended up having a I forgot wht it was called but basically I bruised my muscle under neath where I pinned. I basically rolled out of bed and put all my weight into the scar tissue in my glute. Left me almost paralyzed lol. First cycle btw.

Anyways went to doc. Been awhile since he seen me. He already knew why I was coming in. Took one look at me and asked what I was taking. So I told him. He said be careful and checked me out.

Just depends on your doc I would say. I would tell him anything.

[lovbyts]

I live in southern states of USA. Had to go to doc because I ended up having a I forgot wht it was called but basically I bruised my muscle under neath where I pinned. I basically rolled out of bed and put all my weight into the scar tissue in my glute. Left me almost paralyzed lol. First cycle btw.

Anyways went to doc. Been awhile since he seen me. He already knew why I was coming in. Took one look at me and asked what I was taking. So I told him. He said be careful and checked me out.

Just depends on your doc I would say. I would tell him anything.

Or so you think. Doesn't mean it wont come back to bite you in the ass later. I can 99% guarantee you it is in your file and it can be found out by your health insurance, future employer or??? and cost you getting that dream job someday or more. Dont think just because right now certain information cant (or isn't supposed to be) shared that it wont be in the near future or ever. At the very least if you HAVE to tell your doctor you look them in the eye and say; I want this OFF record and to NOT go into my file in any way.

To many people think 1 dimensional and dont think about the future at all or nothing will/can change.

[Sfla80]

Or so you think. Doesn't mean it wont come back to bite you in the ass later. I can 99% guarantee you it is in your file and it can be found out by your health insurance, future employer or??? and cost you getting that dream job someday or more. Dont think just because right now certain information cant (or isn't supposed to be) shared that it wont be in the near future or ever. At the very least if you HAVE to tell your doctor you look them in the eye and say; I want this OFF record and to NOT go into my file in any way.

To many people think 1 dimensional and dont think about the future at all or nothing will/can change.

Totally agree. Right now luckily I'm in a position I won't have to worry about those things. I have since switched docs and seen new on reg basis. Nothing has brought up. Even bought life insurance few months ago.

Not saying I don't agree but some cases differ. If u don't have to tell don't say a word. My doc there was no way around it. The spot of the Injury. The size difference I had in between visits. He knew right away.

[lovbyts]

I hear you but it's funny how things come up eventually and not only from doctors. My company now has a service that helps people with diet, exercise information, and general health issues. They call you at least monthly if you want them to or not and try to talk you into letting them advise you on xyz. I have only talked to them a couple of times but when I did they seem to know WAY more about my past than I want them to and they are not doctors.

Like I said, it's not only about what is happening NOW but in the future so watch out and think ahead. I am on HRT. I go through an endocrinologist for my Testosterone . I dont even tell my general practitioner I see frequently I am on TRT because I know they are not educated about HRT like most doctors and will judge me or have negative feelings about it. I cant think of any good reason to inform them either since it has no direct effect on anything I see them for.

[stpete]

I'm too old to lie. I switched doctors about three years ago and told him everything. I'm self employed and we have our own insurance so it's a non issue. My wife was very concerned when i was hospitalized but nothing ever came up. But i guess if i had a job where my employer paid a share of my insurance i would have to reconsider.

[lovbyts]

I'm too old to lie. I switched doctors about three years ago and told him everything. I'm self employed and we have our own insurance so it's a non issue. My wife was very concerned when i was hospitalized but nothing ever came up. But i guess if i had a job where my employer paid a share of my insurance i would have to reconsider.

I hear you but I mostly stress this for the younger people because as most of us..... more mature folk we realize how nothing stays the same except change so never say never and always expect the unexpected.

[Sfla80]

Lovbyts never thought of it that way. I mean if something ever happens with my job or me and the lady want change I guess it could lead to problems down the road...u never know mentality

[fit2bOld]

I'm too old to lie. I switched doctors about three years ago and told him everything. I'm self employed and we have our own insurance so it's a non issue. My wife was very concerned when i was hospitalized but nothing ever came up. But i guess if i had a job where my employer paid a share of my insurance i would have to reconsider.

I too am self-employed and buy my own Insurance. Being on HRT it all goes in the record, blood work etc. Haven't had any issues with insurance and with recent surgery was asked at the hospital if they need to dispense any of my HRT meds during my stay.....

[krugerr]

So everything goes in your med file, your employers and insurers can see this information?
Don't you have any sort of confidentiality??

[lovbyts]

So everything goes in your med file, your employers and insurers can see this information?
Don't you have any sort of confidentiality??

Sure they SAY you do but it's funny how much they seem to know. Either way even if you do right now doesn't mean you will tomorrow. Only guarntee is taxes and death.

[gixxerboy1]

So everything goes in your med file, your employers and insurers can see this information?
Don't you have any sort of confidentiality??

If you apply for new insurance health or life you give them access to look into your health records. If you refuse to let them look you will get denied.
I pay for my wifes health insurance on my own. When you apply they also call and ask you all kinds of questions. They were asking her about presciptions she took years ago. They know everything.
Blue Cross will not insure her because she had breast implants. You dont think you can get denied for illegal steroid use ?

Also if you switch doctors or goto a specialist they usually request records from your old dr. So now that info is in the new dr's hands.

[krugerr]

Oh wow, that's in depth. I don't suppose I've ever thought of it though, we don't have to pay for medical care, we have the NHS.

[gixxerboy1]

Oh wow, that's in depth. I don't suppose I've ever thought of it though, we don't have to pay for medical care, we have the NHS.

what about when you want life insurance?

[Lunk1]

If you apply for new insurance health or life you give them access to look into your health records. If you refuse to let them look you will get denied.
I pay for my wifes health insurance on my own. When you apply they also call and ask you all kinds of questions. They were asking her about presciptions she took years ago. They know everything.
Blue Cross will not insure her because she had breast implants. You dont think you can get denied for illegal steroid use ?

Also if you switch doctors or goto a specialist they usually request records from your old dr. So now that info is in the new dr's hands.

We haveBlue Cross and this has never been an issue...maybe it has something to do with size

[gixxerboy1]

We haveBlue Cross and this has never been an issue...maybe it has something to do with size

they know she has them?
also if its through your work they cant deny you.

[Lunk1]

they know she has them?

I cant say that I called or wrote a letter to them...or sent pics lol.

[gixxerboy1]

I cant say that I called or wrote a letter to them...or sent pics lol.

lol, i edited my post. Do you get it through an employer? If so they cant deny you.

[Lunk1]

lol, i edited my post. Do you get it through an employer? If so they cant deny you.

Yes I do...makes sense

[Kilogram]

Im in the UK and telling the doctor is always best! They dont look down on you or say 'take steroids and die', but instead they are professional and give you proper advice. Talking to friends who have consulted there doctors (im starting my first proper cycle soon and will be informing my doctor), it is looked on favourably to tell them, and infact they have advised to make regular appointments during the cycle and after so that any changes can be monitored and so that any side effects can be minimised.
Your doctor isn't your mother they are just a healthcare provider, it is there job to remain professional and provide you with the services they were trained to.

[panntastic]

Im in the UK and telling the doctor is always best! They dont look down on you or say 'take steroids and die', but instead they are professional and give you proper advice. Talking to friends who have consulted there doctors (im starting my first proper cycle soon and will be informing my doctor), it is looked on favourably to tell them, and infact they have advised to make regular appointments during the cycle and after so that any changes can be monitored and so that any side effects can be minimised.
Your doctor isn't your mother they are just a healthcare provider, it is there job to remain professional and provide you with the services they were trained to.

I recently spoke to my doc about my health regarding AAS usage and she was really helpful and understanding aswell maybe there's only a good handful of doctors like this about

[73mustang]

Many good points made and a lot of good information. My opinion is find a doctor that treats or specializes in HRT or HGC, they do exist, even in my little town there is a M.D that specializes in HGH, he quit practicing in Emerg to focus on this. Guess who I'm going to see?

[Times Roman]

just remember anything you tell your doctor will become a part of your medical record.

I remember one time telling my doc (I was taking Prozac) that there was a point i was drinking half a bottle of jack a night just to get to sleep. we were discussing stress at work, and so the prozac was to help me deal with stress more productively than the booze.

So I'm looking at my Kaiser account online, and there was a comment in there that I abused alchohol in the past?????

[Atomini]

My best advice is DON'T.

There are maybe a handful of doctors that are OK with it and will support safe cycling, but most WON'T. I live in Canada and I originally presented the case to my doctor and although he was not for or against it, he advised me not to be doing what I am doing, and he was a nice enough guy to say he wouldn't place my AAS use on my medical records. I told him about my use during my meet and greet with him about 5 years ago. And I also want to mention that all doctors MUST give you the "AAS use is not good and you shouldn't be doing it speech" because they have to. If your doctor tells you "oh its a-ok to be cycling anabolic steroids , thats just fine, here we'll get you some bloodwork done to support your use" etc., then that can come back and bite his ass. And IF anything were to end up happening, he risks losing his license, his job, and he risks being sued even. Do you realize the risks and red tape doctors have to go through?

Most doctors WILL place it on your medical record if/when you tell them, and then you're fvcked if insurance issues come up, then you will get denied payout if a health issue arises or denied coverage, and so on and so forth. In a country like Canada here where we have medicare as well... big no no. 99% of doctors here will refuse bloodwork or anything supporting your AAS use based on that alone. And I for one do not want to be paying for YOUR bloodwork for YOUR steroid use . Keep your use a secret unless you ABSOLUTELY 100% positively know your doctor will be okay with it.

[Penwrath]

I'm from Australia and I definitely wouldn't mention it to a doctor. There's so many other reasons that you can say to the doctor IMO

[fit2bOld]

To clarify: A HRT patient should be diligent with blood work and protocol with your physician. If your blasting (Cycling) best to keep that to yourself.

[havanakid]

To clarify: A HRT patient should be diligent with blood work and protocol with your physician. If your blasting (Cycling) best to keep that to yourself.

Damn right.

[lovbyts]

just remember anything you tell your doctor will become a part of your medical record.

I remember one time telling my doc (I was taking Prozac) that there was a point i was drinking half a bottle of jack a night just to get to sleep. we were discussing stress at work, and so the prozac was to help me deal with stress more productively than the booze.

So I'm looking at my Kaiser account online, and there was a comment in there that I abused alchohol in the past?????

I swear doctors sometimes set you up also or at least the dont think about how something may effect you or your life in the future. One of my docs prescribed me ??? for pain shortly after one of my back surgeries. After I got it I did some research on the internet and found one of the primary uses for this (besides pain management) was for depression. I went back and told her to write me a prescription for hydrocodone and NOT anything that can be associated with depression or anything like that because I dont want ANYTHING in my folder that could be misconstrued into thinking I have depression in any way.

Things like this can cause problems in your future you may never thing about such as security clearances. Dont fool yourself thinking you will never need anything like that. Trust me you never know what the future holds.