Stack gains vs test only gains

**Homeslice12** · 10-01-2012, 03:59 PM

Can you get the same gains off a test only cycle that you might get off a stack cycle (say test/eq or test/deca ) ?are the gains so much more when you stack?
Running second cycle of test e only soon. Thx

**MickeyKnox** · 10-01-2012, 04:01 PM

absolutely you can. your gains are determined by diet and exercise. aas simply allows you to recover faster.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 10-01-2012, 04:02 PM

If you go read the stickie on Tren at the top of this page it gives the ratio and dosage comparisons on Tren - Test.

Really it depends on your diet and training. You could have somebody on Test only make better gains if his diet was on point and clean as compared to somebody just eating to get bigger. Everybody reacts different to different compounds as well. IMO I don't see how anybody could be disappointed in a test only cycle if you have everything perfect! Just because it's not "stacked" doesn't make it weaker!

**austinite** · 10-01-2012, 04:02 PM

Not necessarily. Not everyone stacks for gains. This is all diet dependent. But if you're asking if with the exact same diet...

500mg of Test = 500mg test+300mg Deca --- then no.

**MickeyKnox** · 10-01-2012, 04:10 PM

OP, there are individual compounds will promote more strength, more vascularity, or lean you out, but your diet and exercise determines your "gains"

**MickeyKnox** · 10-01-2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Not necessarily. Not everyone stacks for gains. This is all diet dependent. But if you're asking if with the exact same diet...

500mg of Test = 500mg test+300mg Deca --- then no.

agreed.

**< <Samson> >** · 10-01-2012, 04:32 PM

I think more juice will help but how much will not be worth the possible side effects.

As you progress throughout juicing you can get into other compounds and higher dosages. But, this is something you want to build and not just jump into.

Why run a harsh ass cycle to have a 10% gain over a basic test only cycle?

I read and heard a million times over - Test is best. Few runs of test, then go from there. By then you should have a quality diet dialed in 99% and you will know what to expect.

**austinite** · 10-01-2012, 04:35 PM

OP... read this please...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...into-your-dose!!

**MickeyKnox** · 10-01-2012, 04:44 PM

^^ one of my fav threads...Swifto snapping..lol

**Lunk1** · 10-01-2012, 05:00 PM

After a cycle of test, 3 cycles of test/tren and a cycle of test/tren/mast I plan to return to a test only cycle. Granted it will be a higher dose Test than I have normally run but I am excited for a nice simple test cycle!