New cycle suggestions

[Yahaer]

Hello all

I am asking for suggestion for new bulking cycle for winter season i looking for a long cycle , my stats
Weight : 74 kg
Height : 172
Bf: 20%
age : 24

So any suggestions , thanks

[ScotchGuard02]

Normally, you do research, come up with a cycle, and post for review. Lot's of knowledge here but you gotta do your research first.

[lstbred]

Have you cycled before? goals?

[fit2bOld]

Do the research and post what you are proposing.... Bulk comes from diet....

[stpete]

Limit your research to Testosterone. Typically 12 weeks w/2 injections per week. Orals only won't cut it. Post Cycle Therapy(PCT) is a must as well.

Obviously, diet and training are the keys and need to be dialed in before starting a cycle.

[Yahaer]

Yes i did 2 cycles before , last one was dbol ,400 mg/ week test prop (testolic), 400 mg \ week deca for 8 weeks , i am searching for bulk course like my last or stronger or would i just repeat it again for 12 weeks , any opinions

[Muscletech]

I think should be fine:

1-4 test prop 100mg eod
1-12 test enanthate 750mg
1-11 deca 300/500mg..

With aromasin and an appropriate PCT

[Yahaer]

Thanx muscletech , any other suggestions ?

[Capebuffalo]

Your body fat needs to be below 15%
Higher bf increases the risk of gyno.

[MickeyKnox]

I think should be fine:

1-4 test prop 100mg eod
1-12 test enanthate 750mg
1-11 deca 300/500mg..

With aromasin and an appropriate PCT

i would add hcg to your cycle and run it 250iu 2/wk. other than that, this i spot on, as usual from MT.

Your body fat needs to be below 15%
Higher bf increases the risk of gyno.

totally agree.

[Muscletech]

i would use hcg, if I only see my balls shrink.. but if they still normal, why to use it?

[MickeyKnox]

i would use hcg, if I only see my balls shrink.. but if they still normal, why to use it?

because the percentage of users who experience testicular atrophy far out way those that don't. i think the safest advice would be to include it rather than wait for your balls to shrink.

[Muscletech]

of course you're right.. do you think there is a more serious problem if I wait to see?...

[MickeyKnox]

my advice is to run it on cycle. waiting to "see" is something you'll have to decide. that's like saying, should i wait to see if i retain water, or get acne, before i run an AI? i wouldn't.

[Muscletech]

well, I run always an AI... i don't know if i'm prone to gyno... but for the hcg, for me it's different.. for example on the last three cycle my balls dont shrink.. maybe not completely, or to a serious level..

[MickeyKnox]

fair enough MT. but, although i respect your opinions and comments, i certainly wouldn't wait to get gyno before i included an AI or responded with nolva.

[t-dogg]

Id get your bodyfat lower before starting.

[Sworder]

i would use hcg, if I only see my balls shrink.. but if they still normal, why to use it?

Because your Leydig cells atrophy. Hard to see stuff on a cellular level but it is happening

On a different note, you should have your diet looked into before you start your first cycle! You still have a lot to gain.

[Muscletech]

well you are right, but you can see a little atrophyzation of the balls. uff, ok, you convinced me.. I will run hcg on a middle of the cycle.