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    Can I draw test with a 23 GG Needle?

    They only come in packs of 100 in my local pharmacy so I don't feel like spending an extra $40 for a minor test cycle. (I do not plan on pinning with the dulled needle)



    I don't care if its slow, i'm just wondering if its possible, thanks.

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    yes, it's just slow. you're actually less likely to damage the rubber stopper by using a smaller needle. Some people actually recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTathlete View Post
    yes, it's just slow. you're actually less likely to damage the rubber stopper by using a smaller needle. Some people actually recommend it.
    Oof, didn't think about that. Good call. But isn't a 23 gg still pretty small....

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    it will be just fine, don't you worry. Just be patient and dont PULL on the plunger. it will fill up eventually.

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    Look at the above site AR-R . Needles are Way cheaper there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTathlete View Post
    it will be just fine, don't you worry. Just be patient and dont PULL on the plunger. it will fill up eventually.
    Huh? You have to pull the plunger to create a vacuum. I always pull mine back all the way and let if fill.

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    Dont you have to pull the plunger? And I use 25 gauge, so 23 is more than enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolick View Post
    They only come in packs of 100 in my local pharmacy so I don't feel like spending an extra $40 for a minor test cycle. (I do not plan on pinning with the dulled needle)



    I don't care if its slow, i'm just wondering if its possible, thanks.
    you certainly can. but, those of us in the know (lol) purchase 18gauge needles to draw, then change back to 23 gauge. as Cape said, you can pick them up at the site sponsor above..AR-R .

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    16g to draw
    22g to pin
    No exceptions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misery13 View Post
    16g to draw
    22g to pin
    No exceptions
    16g?? You can't spare more than 2 seconds to draw?
    That must chew up stoppers in a hurry.

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    16 is big. Destroys rubber stopper. 18 is big imo. A few extra seconds is worth it. Having rubber in the vial sucks.

    23 is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolick View Post
    They only come in packs of 100 in my local pharmacy so I don't feel like spending an extra $40 for a minor test cycle. (I do not plan on pinning with the dulled needle)



    I don't care if its slow, i'm just wondering if its possible, thanks.
    That's standard...Well, I mean you can draw with a larger needle but seriously it doesn't take that much longer. Not a big deal

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    I draw with a 21 and switch it out to a 23

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    I draw with 21G. Pin with 25G or 27G.

    Ar-r and Amazon are 1st and 2nd choices for most people. Good selection, rapid delivery.

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    Thanks alot fellas, by the way, do i have to switch needles for drawing or can I use the same one the whole time?

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    you can draw and pin with the same needle, but what everyone is saying here is to use a larger needle to draw, and the smaller gauge to pin.

    so yes, switching needles is best/easier/quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolick
    Thanks alot fellas, by the way, do i have to switch needles for drawing or can I use the same one the whole time?
    What do you mean the same one? Same for injection that you used to draw or you mean can you reuse the same needle to draw in other days?

    I don't reuse any needles/pins for anything. I know some guys like to keep a pin in the bottle at all times and just unlock the syringe. I like to keep things as clean and/or sterile as possible so I never reuse any pin or syringe. Not worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    What do you mean the same one? Same for injection that you used to draw or you mean can you reuse the same needle to draw in other days?

    I don't reuse any needles/pins for anything. I know some guys like to keep a pin in the bottle at all times and just unlock the syringe. I like to keep things as clean and/or sterile as possible so I never reuse any pin or syringe. Not worth the risk.
    nah i mean reuse for drawing (my bad)


    and to the poster above, wouldn't that dull my pin really fast if i used it to draw AND pin



    I'll find out when my test finally gets here in a few days, waited 3 months for this, PUMPPPPPPED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolick View Post
    nah i mean reuse for drawing (my bad)


    and to the poster above, wouldn't that dull my pin really fast if i used it to draw AND pin




    I'll find out when my test finally gets here in a few days, waited 3 months for this, PUMPPPPPPED
    of course it would. where have you been?? this has been the catalyst of this thread.

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    I use a 20g to draw, takes 15 seconds if that.

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    depends on ur patience, been drawing with 23's, goes a little slow but go with what u got bro. Just dont get it backwards and pin with 18. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolick View Post
    Thanks alot fellas, by the way, do i have to switch needles for drawing or can I use the same one the whole time?
    You can use the same one but it will make it a little blunt and harder to break the skin surface.
    Get some 19g for drawing.. 21 to 23g for inject for oil based..

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    I've drawn with 25g needles before when I was out of lower gauge (and I probably someday will have to again). It just takes forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    I've drawn with 25g needles before when I was out of lower gauge (and I probably someday will have to again). It just takes forever.

    like over a minute?

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    I draw with a 21 and pin with a 23 but u can only use what uv got

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    Inject some air into the vial right before you draw, the increase in pressure will push the gear into the syringe.

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    Yeah, I just inject a slightly smaller amount of air than I'm going to draw into the vial before drawing. I usually draw with an 18 and pin with 27. 27 Takes forever, but it's zero pain.

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    But to answer the original question, yeah. I've drawn with a 25.

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    you bet your ass you can sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolick View Post
    like over a minute?
    Well, when I said forever, I didn't literally mean forever. Like half a minute? I don't clock myself with a stopwatch or anything.

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