Adding Winstrol mid test e cycle?

[ineedauser]

Yea it's my first cycle and I know it goes against a lot of veterans opinions here. But i'm asking, inquiring, wondering!

50mg of Winstrol ED for weeks 6-12 should help solidify gains, no? Really help a good diet and workout shed fat? I know people use Winny/DBol for a kickstart... but why not on the backend?

[snowman]

its fine at the end as long as you finish your winny before your test...you answered your own questions on shedding fat, dont forget cardio...hows you PCT?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I've used winny at the end. IMO winny isn't necessary unless your going for a hardened vascular look. I just got a lot more vascular on winny but it didn't assist to much in actual fat burning. It's most beneficial and you'll see it gains more if you are already lean.

Diet and cardio routine are the top factors for your fat loss.

[stpete]

I like it at the end as well to harden up and bf was already minimal. I think it works best like that.

[ineedauser]

Well, what's considered minimal? You guys ever use Anavar? Tons of threads comparing the two... No clear cut choice but it seems most favor Winstrol for hardening and vascularity.

I'm trying to make the most out of my clean diet and test e cycle. Winny or Var really seem to the way I wanna go.

[Lunk1]

Well, what's considered minimal? You guys ever use Anavar? Tons of threads comparing the two... No clear cut choice but it seems most favor Winstrol for hardening and vascularity.

I'm trying to make the most out of my clean diet and test e cycle. Winny or Var really seem to the way I wanna go.

I prefer Var over Winny for a number of reasons.

More effective...less pain and dryness in my joints

[ineedauser]

Really? More effective? Sides are less harsh to, no?

Did you notice any fat loss?

[Lunk1]

Really? More effective? Sides are less harsh to, no?

Did you notice any fat loss?

Ive run it with test/tren/var. Mainly a little tighter.

[matty boy]

you can run Eq also instead of winnie......

[Lunk1]

you can run Eq also instead of winnie......

Why EQ???? EQ was ceated for horses to help them have a better appetite. Most will agree that it is the only benifit they have seen from EQ. The OP is obviously concerned about cutting fat not increasing his appetite.

[ineedauser]

Agreed. I am hovering at roughly 4k calories a day. I wanna be a bit little bit bigger but would definitely prefer to be leaner. My diet is very clean at the moment. Has been for 3 weeks and plan to keep it this way. It was never awful but now it's pretty clean!

So the goal is to cut fat for sure. That's why I was considering adding Winstrol.

[Lunk1]

Agreed. I am hovering at roughly 4k calories a day. I wanna be a bit little bit bigger but would definitely prefer to be leaner. My diet is very clean at the moment. Has been for 3 weeks and plan to keep it this way. It was never awful but now it's pretty clean!

So the goal is to cut fat for sure. That's why I was considering adding Winstrol.

Fat loss will be determined by diet and cardio...gear doesnt replace this. It will enhance appeareance but not aid asa diet supplement. If you are not preping for a show...I say skip either one and just bust your AAS in the gym!

[fit2bOld]

Fat loss will be determined by diet and cardio...gear doesnt replace this. It will enhance appeareance but not aid asa diet supplement. If you are not preping for a show...I say skip either one and just bust your AAS in the gym!

Agree with this.... If not competing save the money for the next go round...

[ineedauser]

Well, definitely not competing. But id like to be the leanest and most defined I can be at the end of this. I don't plan on doing another cycle. But if I did, it wouldn't be within a year for sure. I'd make sure my body fully recovered and is back to where it should be.

But if I can be a bit more vascular, hardened, ripped, etc... I'll seize that now for sure. Just trying to figure out what's best for me.