Test e 14 or 18 days

[mikey hulk]

I everyone almost upon my last pin I've done my research but the info in conflicting do I wait 14 or 18 days till I start my pct??
Thanks

[DanB]

14 days is a good time to start for test e

there is a good sticky in the pct section titled "pct start times"

has the start times for most popular compounds, good info to know you should check it out

[Lunk1]

There has been some conflicting advise on this in alot of of posts from vets. I agree with Dan though...14 days.

[Sworder]

14 days sounds good. At 15 days you should only have 1/8 of the last injection left in your system.

[DanB]

There has been some conflicting advise on this in alot of of posts from vets. I agree with Dan though...14 days.

i dont recall seeing anybody disagree with that here recently, are you sure you arent getting mixed up with cyp which is 18 days?

[Lunk1]

i dont recall seeing anybody disagree with that here recently, are you sure you arent getting mixed up with cyp which is 18 days?

Nope...Even look at Sworders post above. Some will say 15 while most still say 14...

I have seen ppl say 14 with Test C.

And different times for short esters as well.

Just a little something I have spotted. No biggie

[mikey hulk]

Thanks guys much appreciated

[Sworder]

The difference between 14 and 15 days is going to be trivial. By the math(based on a 5day half life) it makes it more convenience to account for how much is left in your system: after 5 days 1/2 after 10 1/4 after 15 1/8.

[dec11]

i know for a fact from start of this year, after taking my last self prescribed test e injection previous to a trt appointment, that i still had some in my system 3.5 weeks later.

personal proof for me that its not an exact science by any means.

[kelkel]

Interesting little site here guys:

http://pct.befit4free.net/

[Lunk1]

The difference between 14 and 15 days is going to be trivial. By the math(based on a 5day half life) it makes it more convenience to account for how much is left in your system: after 5 days 1/2 after 10 1/4 after 15 1/8.

i understand this, my point is that there is sometimes different numbers suggested to newbs and it can be confusing.

[MickeyKnox]

i'll put my chips on 14 as well.

[Lunk1]

Interesting little site here guys:

http://pct.befit4free.net/

Nice link Kel..thank you!

[Sworder]

Interesting little site here guys:

http://pct.befit4free.net/

That site uses a 8 day half life for Test E.

[MickeyKnox]

That site uses a 8 day half life for Test E.

i just realized you posted 5 days for enth half life. i thought it was longer, like 10 days?

[austinite]

14 days to start PCT. end of story.

[MickeyKnox]

Aust, what is the half life of enth?

[MickeyKnox]

this is the only conflicting information that i have seen. some say 4.5 some say more than double, 10.5

[Lunk1]

This is the one I use...
http://www.roidcalc.com/

[MickeyKnox]

This is the one I use...
http://www.roidcalc.com/

that suggest 5. yet information on this site suggest 10.5.

here it is..

"Steroid Half life's

Anyone new to steroids may be wondering what this means, even some experienced steroid users may also be wondering what this means. So here in simple terms you can read and hopefully understand all about steroid half life's and what this term means.

Basically every drug has a half life, steroids included. If for example, you were to inject 1000mg of testosterone cypionate once weekly, for 10 weeks, how would you know when you were "off"? Would you be "off" when you had finished your last dose? You would be able to calculate this from the half life of testosterone cypionate . The half life of testosterone cypionate is around 12 days. This means that 12 days from your last shot of 1000mg of testosterone cypionate (Time to start PCT ? You decide.), your blood levels of testosterone cypionate will contain 500mg of the steroid. Another 12 days from then, i.e. 24 days from last dose, your blood levels will contain 250mg of the steroid. This amount then keeps halving every 12 days. At 48 days (almost 2 months) from your last dose, your blood levels will still contain 67.5mg of testosterone cypionate.

Therefore you can clearly see that when you finish your cycle, even though you are not putting any steroids into your body, you may think that you are now "off", however you still have, and will still have for some time after your last dose, "active" blood levels of the steroid. Therefore you can plan what to use, how long for, and how long off your cycle, based on these half life's.

Below a list of half-life's of the most commonly used steroids, esters and ancillary compounds.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life

Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone ) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone , methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Winstrol (stanozolol )
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca -durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate ) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol ) 1 day

[Sworder]

i just realized you posted 5 days for enth half life. i thought it was longer, like 10 days?

You can find a large lot of differences. Same goes for nandrolone decanoate, most literature states 6 days but you hear stories of 10+ et cetera. Looking at serum testosterone levels resulting from a testosterone enanthate injection it usually peaks after 3-4 days and then has a terminal half life. All these terms usually cause confusion. I find the 5 day half life credible 14 days after last injection to start PCT. Congruent advice for less confusion.

[MickeyKnox]

yet another study suggesting 4.5 days...

http://www.medibolics.com/freq2.htm

[MickeyKnox]

You can find a large lot of differences. Same goes for nandrolone decanoate, most literature states 6 days but you hear stories of 10+ et cetera. Looking at serum testosterone levels resulting from a testosterone enanthate injection it usually peaks after 3-4 days and then has a terminal half life. All these terms usually cause confusion. I find the 5 day half life credible 14 days after last injection to start PCT. Congruent advice for less confusion.

the 14 day ester is a no brainer for most.

i simply wanted to get an opinion on the perhaps out of date information that sometimes slips through the cracks. but i think the 4.5-5 day half life makes more sense, even though there is a lot of information suggesting a long half life.

[dec11]

yet another study suggesting 4.5 days...

http://www.medibolics.com/freq2.htm

i was still showing in low end after 24 days from last HG test e injection, proven by an endo's blood work. could be a case that we all metabolise it differently and literature is only a guide

[Sworder]

i was still showing in low end after 24 days from last HG test e injection, proven by an endo's blood work. could be a case that we all metabolise it differently and literature is only a guide

Absolutely.

[austinite]

Aust, what is the half life of enth?

10.5

[DanB]

The difference between 14 and 15 days is going to be trivial. By the math(based on a 5day half life) it makes it more convenience to account for how much is left in your system: after 5 days 1/2 after 10 1/4 after 15 1/8.

personally i always use a pct calculator and my start times are different and vary depending on doses but the sticky here is what i generally advise, good simple info, not worth over complicating things for newbies when alot of them dont even fully understand the concept of pct to begin with........

[MickeyKnox]

i was still showing in low end after 24 days from last HG test e injection, proven by an endo's blood work. could be a case that we all metabolise it differently and literature is only a guide

can't argue with that.

10.5

i wish there was some conclusive evidence. but as dec put it, that's probably highly unlikely.

[austinite]

Yeah. And everyone on earth thinks that DECA is 4.5 days. Not so...

[Sworder]

personally i always use a pct calculator and my start times are different and vary depending on doses but the sticky here is what i generally advise, good simple info, not worth over complicating things for newbies when alot of them dont even fully understand the concept of pct to begin with........

The start times on the sticky are congruent with mine.

[kelkel]

Impossible to be conclusive or "perfect" in this endeavor. All the calculators are just general guides. Like Dec said, we all metabolize differently. A day here or there is not going to make or break your pct.

[DanB]

The start times on the sticky are congruent with mine.

i wasnt agreeing or disagreeing with you, just rambling on and you the unfortunate fella it was directed at

[Lunk1]

Look what I started LMAO!

[MickeyKnox]

the transparent truth is, half-life has no mathematical influence on pct. but its' interesting to see how wide it varies with certain compounds.

[dec11]

Impossible to be conclusive or "perfect" in this endeavor. All the calculators are just general guides. Like Dec said, we all metabolize differently. A day here or there is not going to make or break your pct.

exactly and if i still pct'd id be anxious on waiting the 24 or so days to start it, never the less lol. black market gear is never guaranteed to be dosed correctly either.

[mikey hulk]

This would be why I asked I'm going with 14 days thanks everyone

[MickeyKnox]

This would be why I asked I'm going with 14 days thanks everyone

yeah the ester for enth doesn't seem to change and is commonly accepted at 14.

but i stated this fiasco by questioning the half life as this seems to be up in the air. i apologize for that Hulk.

im glad you were able to decipher the proper ester through the banter.

cheers!

[austinite]

What's the half life of Advil? Need to frontload it.

[MickeyKnox]

^^Baahahahahahahahaha!! bravo!

[MuscleInk]

What's the half life of Advil? Need to frontload it.

About 2 hours.