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    Test Var Cycle - What to Expect

    First post.
    I am a newbie (I have been gyming for quite a few years though) and have only done 2 cycles in last year and a half, first was Test E only.
    Second cycle was 14 week Test E 375mg/week deca 250mg/week - I got very good bulking results from this cycle. I am 34, 6'0, and went from 210lbs to 237lbs. Currently I am 226lbs.
    I now want to cut down.
    Any advice on the following cycle would be greatly appreciated.
    Week 1-14 Test E 500mg/week (250mg Mon, 250mg Thur)
    Week 7-14 Anavar 40mg/day (I know it should probably be higher, but can't get hold of anymore)
    Week 15-16
    Week 17 Nolva 40mg/day
    Week 18 Nolva 40mg/day
    Week 19 Nolva 20mg/day
    Week 20 Nolva 20mg/day
    Am thinking of taking 0.50 Arimidex EOD - is this required? Want to stop as much bloat as possible.
    I am lifting weights 5 days a week and for cardio I do a 45 minute walk first thing in the morning and 20 minutes of rowing machine in the evening.
    All the gear is quality human grade and it is basically all I can get, I know there are other options to stack with but I don't have access to any of them. Same goes with PCT options.
    I will be supplementing with milk thistle, vitamins, bcaa, glutamine, fish oil and good quality protein. Is there any advantage in taking creatine as well?
    I can get hold of some clen, but not sure of the correct dosages, any advice?
    Thanks in advance.
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    Welcome.

    What is your BF %?

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    Always count on Austinite. Morning or night! lol. OP, let him get you in order. You seem to have it laid out pretty good. Maybe add some clomid in with your PCT. And also, I would recommend using the AI the whole cycle. Austinite will get you good to go. Good luck!

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    Not 100% sure, but will be getting measurement taken in next week or so. I am guessing around 14-15%, carrying a bit of excess weight...been in winter hibernation down here in the South Pacific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    Always count on Austinite. Morning or night! lol. OP, let him get you in order. You seem to have it laid out pretty good. Maybe add some clomid in with your PCT. And also, I would recommend using the AI the whole cycle. Austinite will get you good to go. Good luck!
    Thanks. Think I will run the AI entire cycle.

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    Week 1 to 12 - Test E (dose as you have it)
    Week 6 to 12 - Var @ 60mg ED - Wait until you can get more or dont waste your time. Otherwise run it the last 4 weeks and up your dose.

    Week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly.
    Week 1 to 12 - Adex @ .25 EOD

    2 weeks OFF from everything.

    PCT clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20
    Consider NAC for your liver.

    Good luck. Make sure your diet is fixed or none of this will do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Week 1 to 12 - Test E (dose as you have it)
    Week 6 to 12 - Var @ 60mg ED - Wait until you can get more or dont waste your time. Otherwise run it the last 4 weeks and up your dose.

    Week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly.
    Week 1 to 12 - Adex @ .25 EOD

    2 weeks OFF from everything.

    PCT clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20
    Consider NAC for your liver.

    Good luck. Make sure your diet is fixed or none of this will do anything.
    Wouldn't it be better to run anavar up till pct?

    Llike 8-14 wks?

    Just a thought. That's what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80 View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to run anavar up till pct?

    Llike 8-14 wks?

    Just a thought. That's what I'm doing.
    no..

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    This will be a good run, add the AI throughout and add clomid to the PCT as Austinite suggested.

    More and more we talk about proper nutrition and getting the proper macros to promote muscle growth.
    Most of the guys who are disappointed with their cycle results it can usually be traced back to diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Week 1 to 12 - Test E (dose as you have it)
    Week 6 to 12 - Var @ 60mg ED - Wait until you can get more or dont waste your time. Otherwise run it the last 4 weeks and up your dose.

    Week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly.
    Week 1 to 12 - Adex @ .25 EOD

    2 weeks OFF from everything.

    PCT clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20
    Consider NAC for your liver.

    Good luck. Make sure your diet is fixed or none of this will do anything.
    This cant be stated enough. You can try UDCA from the site sponsor too. I started NAC yesterday due to horrible liver enzymes quite possilbly due to acetaminaphin<? poison/over use. Keep that liver protected!

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    I would wait until you have enought to run a min of 60mg's a week for 6-8wks.

    If your diet is clean you will love the results of test/anavar together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg;6196***
    I would wait until you have enought to run a min of 60mg's a week for 6-8wks.

    If your diet is clean you will love the results of test/anavar together.
    I agree 100% with T dogg and Austinite and wait til you can do 60mgs. Myfirst go with it was 80mgs for 5.5 weeks and results were pretty amazing. Still are. I should have ran it a tad longer, and shouldnt have ran it so high for my first time, but I dont think 40mgs is going to do a whole lot for you. 80 didnt do a whole lot for me, but it did what I wanted it to do. Who knows though, I have heard vets on here say they take 25mgs and like the results, but I wouldnt do that. It is too close to a womans dose. Save up and wait till you get more. You wont be disappointed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    no..
    Not doubting you austinite at all. But what I said was exactly what I was advised to do here. About a week ago lol.

    Can't copy a link to my thread on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80

    Not doubting you austinite at all. But what I said was exactly what I was advised to do here. About a week ago lol.

    Can't copy a link to my thread on my phone.
    Not by me

    Everyone has different opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post

    Not by me

    Everyone has different opinions.
    Lol well said

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    Thanks for the advice. Will wait until I can do the Anavar at 60mg and get some NAC for liver protection. Would it be best to split the Var dose into 2 times a day, morning and evening 30mg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miyasama View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Will wait until I can do the Anavar at 60mg and get some NAC for liver protection. Would it be best to split the Var dose into 2 times a day, morning and evening 30mg?
    Yes it would be best. However, I never do. I run it all at once. But the more you spread it out the more stable you will be.

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    Should I use clen during the cycle? What is the optimum dosage for first time use and how long should it be run for? Thanks

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    I wouldnt worry about the clen. You might be complicating things. You could try it during PCT, but I would wait before you do the clen. Me personally,I would opt for the ECA stack, as I personally feel it is safer and has a much shorter half life. You could try it,and be perfectly legal and every bit as effective. But if you insist on Clen, I would opt for alubterol, but I still feel the ECA stack would be safer and every bit as effective.

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