Which is the best steroid for my goal ?

[venomx]

Tren Enanthate
or
Test + Deca

Looking to bulk + gain strength, and not something that's going to make me A) risk losing my appetite B) Feel fatigued in any way C) Loss of libido.. as i'm ectomorphic a big appetite is a MUST otherwise i lose size QUICK because my metabolism is crazyily high..

I've been reading mixed reviews about Tren and my concerns are this; lots of people report feeling shit and fatigued ( although im guessing this is because they've just gone too higher dose ) and that it can cause appetite loss to any degree and is more aimed at cutting rather than bulking.

However Test+Deca there's very little reports of people feeling 'bad' on deca and it seems to be better for stimulating appetite and weight gain ( although obviously there's some aromatisation but have plenty of A.I's around)

In a way it's a pointless question because every single person responds differently to each steroid and there's some people saying they've run tren alone for years and felt great, wheras some people felt shit and depressed within a few weeks.. but i'm just looking for some general info about which direction each of the above steroids have taken you.
I know with test you cannot go wrong but it's not been a great mass builder for me so was just looking for that little bit extra.

thanks

[Stosh_112]

If its ur first cycle then just do Test. See how u respond.

[bigZthedestroyer]

You should hold off a few years and use the time to educate yourself. You run high risks if you cycle AAS before your HPTA is fully developed. Have you read the young and steroids? It's in the stickies in here. It's a good place to start. What's your diet and training like? We can definitely help pack on some mass, but it's going to involve a lot of pod and dedication!

[Bio-Active]

At 19 no one is going to recommend you using AAS. Spend the next few years doing research so when the time is right you can make an informed decision about AAS.

[ScotchGuard02]

read the following before you do anything.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UG8RR01X0l2

[venomx]

If its ur first cycle then just do Test. See how u respond.

Yeah used low dosages of test cyp and enan before with pretty good results but only recently upped my dosage of AI's and seems to have had a v. good effect. So might just hold out and stay on test + a decent amount of arimidex for a while to see if it brings me what I want.

To answer the whole 'Young and steroids' issue, I've had bloods back for low testosterone and doctors refuse to offer TRT or any support untill i'm much older so took it upon my self to begin low dosage test and it's worked wonders.

Diet is spot on really just cramming in loads of calories and protein with a fair bit of carbs, tiny bit of cardio and still staying lean especially since using arimidex.
think it may just be a better option to stick to test for now.

[DigitalGorilla]

the DRS are right ---- you are too young!!!


Smoke some weed - eat some chicken and go to the gym!!! Stop looking for a magic pill.

[stpete]

Care to list what you typically eat in a day?

[venomx]

Care to list what you typically eat in a day?

It's different every day though but generally in this order..

Oats and eggs - some beef sausages
chicken sandwhiches
Chicken and pasta
Beef or Chicken and pasta/chips
few protein shakes

As a core, and ontop of that i eat a shitload of other stuff to make up for calories i.e burgers and pizza's, its the only way i gain weight being an ectomorph otherwise i feel tired and don't gain anything

[DigitalGorilla]

There are plenty of other ways to get your appetite up. AAS should NOT be a choice right now. You will regret it 1000% If you dont wanna try canibus, try B12 shots.....they will drive your appetite up crazy. And give you energy. Most days I can put away about 8000 calories