Anticipated Cycle Critique

[Evolution06]

31 yrs old
6'1'' 240lbs
BF 12%
Been training 4-5 days a week since I was about 18-19 yrs old, been solid in the gym and with my diet for the past 6 months.

12 Week cycle:
Test Prop - 150mg EOD
Tren Ace - 75mg EOD
Cabergoline - 1mg/ week

PCT:
Day 1-30
.25mg Arimidex
100mg Clomid
20mg Nolvadex

[austinite]

Hey there,

Is this your 1st cycle?

[Evolution06]

No, done a few but i have been off for about 2 years. i have done Tren Enan in the past as well so I know all about the sides that go along with it, this time I want to do Ace instead so if it gets a little nutty I can jump off quicker.

[austinite]

Doses look good but I would bring it down to 8 or 9 weeks tops. for PCT I prefer clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20

[Evolution06]

Yea I have been reading a lot how pretty much everyone doesn't even bother with the Arimidex...

I know that the saying that more isn't better but is there any particular reason why you say to bring it down to 8-9 weeks tops?

My goal is to take advantage of the lean mass building and cutting aspects.

[austinite]

I dont know who doesnt bother with adex, not a good idea. Always use adex on cycle.

It's a very short esther, 12 week cycles are usually with longer esthers. you should be able to reach your goal in 8 weeks on a short ester, as you would in 12 weeks on a longer ester. No need to run it 12 weeks.

[Evolution06]

Ok gotcha, I misread what you were saying. You were saying the dosage for the PCT would be different with tapering not that you wouldnt use the Adex... sorry about that.

And your point about it being short esters totally makes sense.

So for PCT you would do this?

Arimidex .25mg Days 1-30

Clomid:
Week 1 100mg day
Week 2 50mg day
Week 3 50mg day
Week 4 50mg day

Nolvadex
Week 1 40mg day
Week 2 20mg day
Week 3 20mg day
Week 4 20mg day

[austinite]

Ok gotcha, I misread what you were saying. You were saying the dosage for the PCT would be different with tapering not that you wouldnt use the Adex... sorry about that.

And your point about it being short esters totally makes sense.

So for PCT you would do this?

Arimidex .25mg Days 1-30

Clomid:
Week 1 100mg day
Week 2 50mg day
Week 3 50mg day
Week 4 50mg day

Nolvadex
Week 1 40mg day
Week 2 20mg day
Week 3 20mg day
Week 4 20mg day

No need for Adex during PCT. Adex need to be on cycle. From week 1 to 8.

PCT looks good now. Start PCT 3 days after last injection.

[Evolution06]

Ok cool thanks

[Lunk1]

Austin nailed it...good for 3!

[Evolution06]

Thanks guys.

About the cabergoline... Im still waiting for my source to confirm that he has this. In the event that he doesnt I understand that either Pramiprexole or Bromocriptine can be substituted, in the event that he has none of these is there anything I can use? Will Vitamin B6 help or would I have to forget about using Tren?

[Lunk1]

Thanks guys.

About the cabergoline... Im still waiting for my source to confirm that he has this. In the event that he doesnt I understand that either Pramiprexole or Bromocriptine can be substituted, in the event that he has none of these is there anything I can use? Will Vitamin B6 help or would I have to forget about using Tren?

I definetly suggest having Caber or Prami on hand but with that being said if you are using an AI and keep estro levels good then the need for prolactin control is nearly non existant.

[Evolution06]

Yea I can get my hands on the AI no problem so that will be run, I would like to have the Caber or Prami but just thinking worst case if he doesnt have it...

If I were to be gyno prone I would definitely need to run the Caber or Prami right?

[Matt]

Welcome to the board Evolution..

You've received great advice and your cycle looks good, please keep us posted on your progress....

[Lunk1]

Yea I can get my hands on the AI no problem so that will be run, I would like to have the Caber or Prami but just thinking worst case if he doesnt have it...

If I were to be gyno prone I would definitely need to run the Caber or Prami right?

Have you read Atomini's sticky on Tren at all? If not it is a manditory read for all tren users imo.

If your gyno prone it is most likely from estro not prolactine...have you had gyno??

[Evolution06]

Yea I read the entire sticky probably 5-6 times now so I have a solid understanding of it.

No, havent had gyno but I did get a tiny sensitivity once but I jumped to the letrozole to wipe that out, so I was just curious.

rasc170... what are you talking about I havent posted a single link to anything on this forum, matter of fact you cant post links or anything like that unless you have 25 or more posts I believe...