Tren a and sust300 questions about my cycle

[TASSY5]

First of all i've been on TRT therapy for the last 4 years. 200 mg Test C weekly and Arimidex .25 EOD.

Stats
age 45
5' 10"
Was 218 Now 235 in 4 weeks since on this new cycle
Work out days 4 - 5 days per week
cardio.... not really any worth speaking of

OK 4 weeks ago i started a cycle of sust300 twice per week. sunday and thursday 1cc = 300 mg
so thats 600 per week.
Tren A 125 mg 1 & 1/4 CC EOD
Arimidex .25 EOD also

Trying to eat clean and working out very hard with the free weights and getting much stronger and definatly holding more fluid. My clothes are getting uncomfortablly tight especially my shirts. (lol) But filling out more solidly in the whole torso area. and i feel like a human pin cushin
My question is I was told that TREN A does help with the Cutting along with the building of muscle size and hardness. but with the Sust300 I feel like im getting Thicker more so then Cutting myself. There is definatly a difference in my size of my chest, arms back etc.. but i may be going in the wrong way. Definatly larger in the stomach area also, and my abs which showed are now dissapearing. my goal was to try and shred down. Diet has been ok and protein intake is proper.

Should i make Any change to my cycle?? that may help. Should i stop the Sust 300 and go back to the TEST C from my TRT? would that help or hurt?
Also, finding it slightly harder to breath these days since cycling. may be due to the extra fluid im carrying.

No Flaming please, I come here because I appreciate your valid advice. Any Solid help is very much appreciated that could help me get better on track.

Thanks you,
TASSY5

[austinite]

You're gaining too fast. this is a diet related issue. Tren 's nutrient partitioning is beneficial of course but a poor diet will give you poor results from Tren, or any other compound for that matter. Im on cycle and gained too much in 1 week. Before the esters even kicked in. So I restructured my diet to fix that issue.

Are you getting any bloodwork done on cycle? .25 EOD may not suffice.

Lots of folks run tren with a TRT dose. No issues there.

Tren gives me shortness of breath, too.

Whats your BF %?

[Lunk1]

Any water retention or bloating is associated with diet and your estro.

Start by dropping the test down to the 300 you were on before. These sides can be due to the higher test ratio causing more estrogen. Also check the "spot on diet" in nutrition. It could be something as simple as salt intake or fats being too high

[TASSY5]

OK THANKS FOR THE HELP

MY BF? no idea

Blood work only once every 6 months with my endo.

Should i up the Arimidex to lower the Estrogen?

[mojo999]

Hi... Tren and huffing and puffing is common. No stamina at all; 5 flights of stairs? forget abt it, take the elevator.. But man... you'll grow... BIG n FAST Zeus like if u know what i mean... Before u up the Adex, do some bloodwork first just to make sure where you're at. Fixing your diet should help u cut bro... my 2 cents

[TASSY5]

I WILL CUT THE Sust300 from 600mg per week to 150 twice per week. Arimidex .25 eod and leave the Tren A at 100 EOD hopefully that will help also. thanks guys

[stpete]

Why lower the test? Silly. Watch your diet and train harder. Lowering the test increases sides.

[Lunk1]

Why lower the test? Silly. Watch your diet and train harder. Lowering the test increases sides.

I respectfully disagree Pete. he is running 600 mg of test a week and tren and nearly 450mg EW. His complaint is bloating (water retention) which is most likely caused by high estrogen. The higher estrogen is mainly caused by the higher dose testosterone not the tren. How would lowering test ti a bit higher than trt INCREASE sides???? I'm all ears and willing to listen to your POV.

Since Tren does not aromotize in the fat cells and convert to estrogen and we all know that testosterone increases estrogen it makes great sence to run as little test as needed to keep "manly functions" working properly.

Bottom line is MORE test=more sides.

[TASSY5]

i respectfully disagree pete. He is running 600 mg of test a week and tren and nearly 450mg ew. His complaint is bloating (water retention) which is most likely caused by high estrogen. The higher estrogen is mainly caused by the higher dose testosterone not the tren. How would lowering test ti a bit higher than trt increase sides???? I'm all ears and willing to listen to your pov.

Since tren does not aromotize in the fat cells and convert to estrogen and we all know that testosterone increases estrogen it makes great sence to run as little test as needed to keep "manly functions" working properly.

Bottom line is more test=more sides.

thanks

[TASSY5]

One more thing. Since i have been on TRT for 4 years with Test C does it really make a difference when I go back to that over the Sust i'm currently taking?
Meaning i never really see guys doing a TEST C cycle with other gear, any reason why? Is it not as potent?
im just curious?

In TEST C i only take 200 mg once per week. when i return to that program will i keep much of what ive gained or loose some?

[yannick35]

45 interesting i am 40 looking forward to see what results you end up with. I am interested in doing tren again even if i am 40.

[Lunk1]

One more thing. Since i have been on TRT for 4 years with Test C does it really make a difference when I go back to that over the Sust i'm currently taking?
Meaning i never really see guys doing a TEST C cycle with other gear, any reason why? Is it not as potent?
im just curious?

In TEST C i only take 200 mg once per week. when i return to that program will i keep much of what ive gained or loose some?

The Sus is justa blend and at the end of the day test is test...there would be no diff between running your Cyp vs the Sus.

Guys use test C for cycles ALOT.

Keeping your gains is more about diet, excersise and wether you are near your genetic limits

[TASSY5]

The Sus is justa blend and at the end of the day test is test...there would be no diff between running your Cyp vs the Sus.

Guys use test C for cycles ALOT.

Keeping your gains is more about diet, excersise and wether you are near your genetic limits

Thank you for the help and advice. I appreciate all the comments.

[Lunk1]

No problem...please look for your bill in the mail in the next 10-14 business days