Crazy PIP in quads!

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

ahhh! I pinned my left quad last thursday and the pain is just about healed now. I pinned my right quad on monday and the pain is once again crazy! it feels as if i got charlie horses big time by a mma fighter lol.

Should I continue pinning quads if i feel a large amount of pip?

Currently i am trying to rotate between delts, quads, and glutes, repeat. thanks.

[Phased]

How slow are you pinning, are you heating the oil, are you massaging the area before and after for at least 3-5 minutes and are you using fresh needles?
Also I like to only pin .5ml per site. So if its 1ml/100mg, split the dose into two muscle groups. Have you thought about subq vs IM?

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[boxa06]

ahhh! I pinned my left quad last thursday and the pain is just about healed now. I pinned my right quad on monday and the pain is once again crazy! it feels as if i got charlie horses big time by a mma fighter lol.

Should I continue pinning quads if i feel a large amount of pip?

Currently i am trying to rotate between delts, quads, and glutes, repeat. thanks.

What are you pinning?

[Phased]

What are you pinning?

Sounds like prop.

[boxa06]

Sounds like prop.

Or Winny... Or Both!

[MuscleInk]

WHAT and HOW MUCH are you injecting.

Any lumps or hardness in the PI site?

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

I am pinning 1cc of test cyp. fresh needle. i dont heat the bottle. i only massage after the injection for around 20 seconds. :S

[MuscleInk]

I am pinning 1cc of test cyp. fresh needle. i dont heat the bottle. i only massage after the injection for around 20 seconds. :S

Try a heating pad and light massage. Let us know if the tissue hardens or turns red/warm in the next 48hrs

[boxa06]

I am pinning 1cc of test cyp. fresh needle. i dont heat the bottle. i only massage after the injection for around 20 seconds. :S

You shouldn't get any pain from cyp.. 250 strength per ml? Maybe you're pinning the wrong part of the quad.

[Phased]

I am pinning 1cc of test cyp. fresh needle. i dont heat the bottle. i only massage after the injection for around 20 seconds. :S

Wow I pin cyp with no pain, hope you got the right stuff.
Heat the oil for 4-5 minutes
Massage the area before for 1-2minutes
Inject slow I do about 1 minute per .5ml
Rub, rub, rub after you pin. Also rub a few times thought the day, not just after pinning.
Put a heat pack or pad on it after
Rotate sites, use clean needles everytime and swab the tops of the bottles with alch prep pads.

[kmms]

i don't heat or warm my ampules nor do i ever massage for more than a few seconds before and after and i don't ever have any pain in my quads. everyone is different man, you have a lot of choices at your disposal.

[Phased]

i don't heat or warm my ampules nor do i ever massage for more than a few seconds before and after and i don't ever have any pain in my quads. everyone is different man, you have a lot of choices at your disposal.

Consider yourself blessed. Pip is horrible.
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[kmms]

Consider yourself blessed. Pip is horrible.
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i've been getting weekly injections for the better part of 30 years now. the only time i ever had any significant pain was when i allowed a dr to give me a vaccination in my delt before traveling. if i ever need another injection and they won't let me self inject, i've learned to choose the nurse rather than a dr.

[MuscleInk]

i don't heat or warm my ampules nor do i ever massage for more than a few seconds before and after and i don't ever have any pain in my quads. everyone is different man, you have a lot of choices at your disposal.

I only massage if a lump forms within 48-72 hrs. Had a nasty one in my glute Sunday night. Had my wife massage it for 20 minutes and rub tiger balm on it. Hurt like bloody hell while she massaged it but next day the lump was gonzo!!!

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

I will try all of the above tactics for tomorrows pin. I will be pinning glutes. I heard that pip can be due to virgin muscle?

[Phased]

I will try all of the above tactics for tomorrows pin. I will be pinning glutes. I heard that pip can be due to virgin muscle?

First cycle?

[Phased]

Guys lets stay on pont here

[MuscleInk]

Guys lets stay on pont here

I thought we were on point! I was serious about the glute bump. Sorry if it came across slutty. Lol

The comment was intended to be sincere!

[Phased]

I thought we were on point! I was serious about the glute bump. Sorry if it came across slutty. Lol

The comment was intended to be sincere!

He's in pain, lets get him out of that. That's the priority
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[MuscleInk]

He's in pain, lets get him out of that. That's the priority
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Yes. That's WAS my point Phased. Heat and massage. That's what I was recommending. It does help provided if its just PIP and not an infection - which I don't suspect at this point, I meant nothing more by the comment I made.

[Phased]

Ok ok!

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Yes this is my first cycle. tomorrow will be the begining of my 3rd week. so far i have pinned right delt, left delt, left quad, right quad. tomorrow I will go right glute, although i think I should just do delt again because i don't know if my partner is going to want to pin my glute.

[Phased]

Yes this is my first cycle. tomorrow will be the begining of my 3rd week. so far i have pinned right delt, left delt, left quad, right quad. tomorrow I will go right glute, although i think I should just do delt again because i don't know if my partner is going to want to pin my glute.

Have you thought or heard of subq injection, no pain...
Top thread in the HRT forum, go check it out
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...)#.UHYxS2t5mK0

[austinite]

Have you thought or heard of subq injection, no pain...
Top thread in the HRT forum, go check it out
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...)#.UHYxS2t5mK0

Love that post.

[cherrydrpepper]

Have you thought or heard of subq injection, no pain...
Top thread in the HRT forum, go check it out
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...)#.UHYxS2t5mK0

I brought up SubQ a couple of times before and got cut down by bro science heroes calling me a puss. I always figured it was as good or close enough that the difference was negligible. Now I feel like aas god. Hoooo

[Live for the PUMP]

I pinned Quads once and will avoid pinning them ever again at all costs. Switch to glutes is my .02

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

I just read that thread about subq, but i don't think i understand what IM or SubQ is.

[Phased]

I just read that thread about subq, but i don't think i understand what IM or SubQ is.

Intramuscular injection meaning into the muscle
Subq subcutaneous injection into the fat.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Oh i see, Well I have been doing this cycle with my best friend, and we pin each other. We have been checking on spotinjections.com and we try to pin into the muscle. What would you recommend? pin to the muscle or fat. Also is it distributed the same?

[Phased]

Read the study on the link I posted, I like subq much better no pain. No spike in e2 the way IM does. Slower release. Talk to Kel Kel as well in HRT or post in that thread.

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[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Thanks for the help. I will look into it. Quick quesiton though. If i decide to pin half a cc at a time in different spots, do I have to change the needle once again? or is the same needle g2g? I will obviously change needle after drawing though. Thanks.

[diabolicsoul]

Thanks for the help. I will look into it. Quick quesiton though. If i decide to pin half a cc at a time in different spots, do I have to change the needle once again? or is the same needle g2g? I will obviously change needle after drawing though. Thanks.

Yeah you should change the needle, unless you like using a dull one.

[Sworder]

Yeah you should change the needle, unless you like using a dull one.

You won't find that the dermis dulls the needle very much. It is very common for people to use the same needle if hitting multiple spots. I wouldn't recommend, it but it's not an issue in terms of dulling the pin.

[dhriscerr]

You won't find that the dermis dulls the needle very much. It is very common for people to use the same needle if hitting multiple spots. I wouldn't recommend, it but it's not an issue in terms of dulling the pin.

http://imgur.com/gallery/Rh7RY

[Sworder]

http://imgur.com/gallery/Rh7RY

How many times have you injected with a pin that has been used once before and a fresh pin? Can you tell the difference? No sir, you can not.

[gymfu]

Virgin muscle, if you keep at it it will get better. Quads are not a recommendation for newbies, glutes are always going to be the least painfull.

[kbunyan]

Virgin muscle, if you keep at it it will get better. Quads are not a recommendation for newbies, glutes are always going to be the least painfull.

You say this now ? I am limping for 2 days now. Lol fun times. I can bear pain its just annoying

[Morphene1337]

You say this now ? I am limping for 2 days now. Lol fun times. I can bear pain its just annoying

Damn, bringing back a 6-year thread... Lol

[kbunyan]

Damn, bringing back a 6-year thread... Lol

Oops I didn't notice that on phone LOL. Fuck I had to miss leg day due to PiP in quad.

[kmms]

if you do use the same needle for more than one spot on your body you really should consider using an alcohol swab to disinfect it between each location. still not recommended as a regular practice.