Preparing for First cycle

[Kawaboy]

So i've mostly made up my mind that I want to do my first cycle sometime over the next few months, Just looking for a bit of input as to my cycle/diet/training plan. I know its alot to read so if you make it through everything thanks

I'm planning to go with a novice plan which I found browsing this site which is as follows
weeks 1-12 500mg Test E split into 2x a week
weeks 13-14 Nothing
week 15-16 40 MG Nolva EOD
week 17 20 MG Nolva EOD

stats 25, 5'4"-5'5" 135-140 lbs
Bf% dunno fairly low have visible abs.

this is my bulking diet I put together, basically Ive worked out meals that I can afford and have the time to consume based on my work schedule, I havent counted the macros and its prob not perfect but I dont have time or money to make anything too elaborate and wash dishes all day suggestions are welcome but keep in mind my meals have to be practical.

breakfast 6:30-7:00 - Friend egg sandwhich
2 large eggs, 2peices W/W Flax Toast, 1 slice light cheese, half an avocado, tsp mayo and ketchup. 6oz (Precooked) oats with unsweetend applesauce, 1 cup 2% Milk And a coffee cause I'm cranky without it

Snack 1 9:00 ish
Meal Replacement Bar
1/4 almonds

Lunch
1 can of tuna on a w/w Flax Wrap with 1 slice of light cheese and pickles or 1 chicken breast 1 cup of brown rice

snack 2 2:00-3:30 ish 2 small cans of flavoured tuna

Preworkout 6oz oats + 1 scoop of protien

Postworkout 1 scoop waxy maize + 1 scoop protien

dinner - Steak/Fish Or Chicken
1 cup brown rice or some kind of carbs + whatever I feel like maybe some corn who knows I like to cook random stuff some days

Bedtime, I usually get tired and skip doing anything and just crash but maybe eat some chunks of whole cottage cheese? i can't stand the creamed shit.



W/O Plan - I'm pretty damn all over the place with his at the moment, I can't figure out whats the best way for me to train. My goal is to get a good deal bigger and be shredded im more concerned with hypertrophy but I find there is so much debate over the best way to train some say heavy compounds 3 days a week some say 5 day split doing isolation at 12 reps

I've done rippetoes recently and had what I felt were good results I found my body seemed to like training this way and I was able to put more effort into my lifts, I was getting strong fast but I dunno if this is the most effiecient way to get bigger. I have recently tried a plan that a trainer put my on when I asked for program to get bigger that has a buttload of excersizes and sets all in the rep range of 12 reps but I found I could only get 1 or 2 sets with a decent weight and have it feel good then I just got so damn tired and the lactic acid was building up so quick that I couldn't lift for crap quite frankly I just felt it was burning me out way too much to be practical

What I would like to do is find the plan that im going to be using for my cycle and stick to it for a while and get all the kinks worked out so im ready to rock it when im on.

Recently was reading an thread on the workouts section that was kind of a mix of both

fullbody
Upper/lower strength (5 reps) on day 1/2 upper/lower hypertrophy day 4/5 (10Reps)

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Your cycle proposal is good, you need an AI though, either Adex or Aromasin.

Your diet needs to be fixed before you start as well. There's no way that's a bulking diet, theres not to many whole foods and more then enough shakes IMO.

Grab an AI and tweak your diet and you'll be on the right track my man.

[warmouth]

^^^This. And what doyour friends eggs taste like? I had to do it! Good Luck with the cycle.

[calstate23]

So i've mostly made up my mind that I want to do my first cycle sometime over the next few months, Just looking for a bit of input as to my cycle/diet/training plan. I know its alot to read so if you make it through everything thanks

I'm planning to go with a novice plan which I found browsing this site which is as follows
weeks 1-12 500mg Test E split into 2x a week
weeks 13-14 Nothing
week 15-16 40 MG Nolva EOD
week 17 20 MG Nolva EOD

stats 25, 5'4"-5'5" 135-140 lbs
Bf% dunno fairly low have visible abs.

this is my bulking diet I put together, basically Ive worked out meals that I can afford and have the time to consume based on my work schedule, I havent counted the macros and its prob not perfect but I dont have time or money to make anything too elaborate and wash dishes all day suggestions are welcome but keep in mind my meals have to be practical.

breakfast 6:30-7:00 - Friend egg sandwhich
2 large eggs, 2peices W/W Flax Toast, 1 slice light cheese, half an avocado, tsp mayo and ketchup. 6oz (Precooked) oats with unsweetend applesauce, 1 cup 2% Milk And a coffee cause I'm cranky without it

Snack 1 9:00 ish
Meal Replacement Bar
1/4 almonds

Lunch
1 can of tuna on a w/w Flax Wrap with 1 slice of light cheese and pickles or 1 chicken breast 1 cup of brown rice

snack 2 2:00-3:30 ish 2 small cans of flavoured tuna

Preworkout 6oz oats + 1 scoop of protien

Postworkout 1 scoop waxy maize + 1 scoop protien

dinner - Steak/Fish Or Chicken
1 cup brown rice or some kind of carbs + whatever I feel like maybe some corn who knows I like to cook random stuff some days

Bedtime, I usually get tired and skip doing anything and just crash but maybe eat some chunks of whole cottage cheese? i can't stand the creamed shit.



W/O Plan - I'm pretty damn all over the place with his at the moment, I can't figure out whats the best way for me to train. My goal is to get a good deal bigger and be shredded im more concerned with hypertrophy but I find there is so much debate over the best way to train some say heavy compounds 3 days a week some say 5 day split doing isolation at 12 reps

I've done rippetoes recently and had what I felt were good results I found my body seemed to like training this way and I was able to put more effort into my lifts, I was getting strong fast but I dunno if this is the most effiecient way to get bigger. I have recently tried a plan that a trainer put my on when I asked for program to get bigger that has a buttload of excersizes and sets all in the rep range of 12 reps but I found I could only get 1 or 2 sets with a decent weight and have it feel good then I just got so damn tired and the lactic acid was building up so quick that I couldn't lift for crap quite frankly I just felt it was burning me out way too much to be practical

What I would like to do is find the plan that im going to be using for my cycle and stick to it for a while and get all the kinks worked out so im ready to rock it when im on.

Recently was reading an thread on the workouts section that was kind of a mix of both

fullbody
Upper/lower strength (5 reps) on day 1/2 upper/lower hypertrophy day 4/5 (10Reps)

Well before you die of mercury poisoning from all the canned tuna you're going to eat...I think the diet is a little wack. I just skimmed through it and breakfast alone was enough for me to stop...Well then I also skimmed through and saw tuna, tuna, tuna

[Brohim]

So i've mostly made up my mind that I want to do my first cycle sometime over the next few months, Just looking for a bit of input as to my cycle/diet/training plan. I know its alot to read so if you make it through everything thanks

I'm planning to go with a novice plan which I found browsing this site which is as follows
weeks 1-12 500mg Test E split into 2x a week need an AI here. Adex .25ED or Aromasin 12.5 EOD
weeks 13-14 Nothing I would blast some HCG 1500iu EOD and also take 250iu x2 per week during cycle
week 15-16 40 MG Nolva EOD
week 17 20 MG Nolva EOD

stats 25, 5'4"-5'5" 135-140 lbs
Bf% dunno fairly low have visible abs.

this is my bulking diet I put together, basically Ive worked out meals that I can afford and have the time to consume based on my work schedule, I havent counted the macros and its prob not perfect but I dont have time or money to make anything too elaborate and wash dishes all day suggestions are welcome but keep in mind my meals have to be practical.

breakfast 6:30-7:00 - Friend egg sandwhich
2 large eggs, 2peices W/W Flax Toast, 1 slice light cheese, half an avocado, tsp mayo and ketchup. 6oz (Precooked) oats with unsweetend applesauce, 1 cup 2% Milk And a coffee cause I'm cranky without it

Snack 1 9:00 ish
Meal Replacement Bar try to get whole food and not a bar. lean meat like chicken breast would be ideal
1/4 almonds

Lunch
1 can of tuna on a w/w Flax Wrap with 1 slice of light cheese and pickles or 1 chicken breast 1 cup of brown rice

snack 2 2:00-3:30 ish 2 small cans of flavoured tuna limit tuna to 1 can a day. Buy some canned salmon or chicken instead. You also need dark green veggies added somewhere. At least two servings per day

Preworkout 6oz oats + 1 scoop of protien

Postworkout 1 scoop waxy maize + 1 scoop protien

dinner - Steak/Fish Or Chicken
1 cup brown rice or some kind of carbs + go with 2 cups of brocc or spinanch here along with your meat and carbs

Bedtime, I usually get tired and skip doing anything and just crash but maybe eat some chunks of whole cottage cheese? you need to calculate your macros and make a choice to bulk or cut and adjust macros. And add a meal here if you are bulking for sure. Protein shake and PB or egg whites with a little yogurt if bulking



W/O Plan - I'm pretty damn all over the place with his at the moment, I can't figure out whats the best way for me to train. My goal is to get a good deal bigger and be shredded im more concerned with hypertrophy but I find there is so much debate over the best way to train some say heavy compounds 3 days a week some say 5 day split doing isolation at 12 reps

I've done rippetoes recently and had what I felt were good results I found my body seemed to like training this way and I was able to put more effort into my lifts, I was getting strong fast but I dunno if this is the most effiecient way to get bigger. I have recently tried a plan that a trainer put my on when I asked for program to get bigger that has a buttload of excersizes and sets all in the rep range of 12 reps but I found I could only get 1 or 2 sets with a decent weight and have it feel good then I just got so damn tired and the lactic acid was building up so quick that I couldn't lift for crap quite frankly I just felt it was burning me out way too much to be practical

What I would like to do is find the plan that im going to be using for my cycle and stick to it for a while and get all the kinks worked out so im ready to rock it when im on.

Recently was reading an thread on the workouts section that was kind of a mix of both Find a workout program you like and stick to it. On juice I would stick to high volume training and focus on form and muscle contraction

fullbody
Upper/lower strength (5 reps) on day 1/2 upper/lower hypertrophy day 4/5 (10Reps)

above

[Honkey_Kong]

Dude you need more real food. I think you need to google out the calories and macros. But a large egg is like 90 calories 6.3g protein and tuna is like 60 calories per can(if it's in water and not oil) and 15g of protein.

Also ketchup for breakfast? You probably should keep your sodium down if you plan to cycle. Your BP is going to go up most likely, so you need to do what you can do to try to control it.

You can't expect to get big if you don't eat big.

[t-dogg]

Lol i highly dout he will get mercury poisoning.

[Phased]

If you eating lots of tuna use NAC for detox
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2199274/

[calstate23]

Lol i highly dout he will get mercury poisoning.

Ha ha I'm just messin...But #1 just cook up a fuc*kin chicken breast on the lean mean grillin machine...Is it that hard...I have no idea why people always want to go to canned tuna. I mean I love canned tuna and will eat it but sparingly in my diet...It's great, it's low fat, no carb, high protein...But the SH*T is canned...High sodium. And even though I say mercury poisoning I don't really believe that he'll get mercury poisoning..but that much canned tuna just isn't good for you....I'm serious though, if someone TRULY ate that much tuna everyday of their life there would be problems for sure....

If you want to know how much mercury is in your fish you can go here and calculate it http://www.gotmercury.org/article.ph...pe&type=75...I calculated his and it's over 20 TIMES the normal weekly amount..Do I believe people who eat that much will die? NO...But if it is done for a lifetime yes...

And secondly, I mean we're trying to be healthy here, right? I'd rather have a real cooked meal...

[calstate23]

So i've mostly made up my mind that I want to do my first cycle sometime over the next few months, Just looking for a bit of input as to my cycle/diet/training plan. I know its alot to read so if you make it through everything thanks

I'm planning to go with a novice plan which I found browsing this site which is as follows
weeks 1-12 500mg Test E split into 2x a week
weeks 13-14 Nothing
week 15-16 40 MG Nolva EOD
week 17 20 MG Nolva EOD

stats 25, 5'4"-5'5" 135-140 lbs
Bf% dunno fairly low have visible abs.

this is my bulking diet I put together, basically Ive worked out meals that I can afford and have the time to consume based on my work schedule, I havent counted the macros and its prob not perfect but I dont have time or money to make anything too elaborate and wash dishes all day suggestions are welcome but keep in mind my meals have to be practical.

breakfast 6:30-7:00 - Friend egg sandwhich
2 large eggs, 2peices W/W Flax Toast, 1 slice light cheese, half an avocado, tsp mayo and ketchup. 6oz (Precooked) oats with unsweetend applesauce, 1 cup 2% Milk And a coffee cause I'm cranky without it

Snack 1 9:00 ish
Meal Replacement Bar
1/4 almonds

Lunch
1 can of tuna on a w/w Flax Wrap with 1 slice of light cheese and pickles or 1 chicken breast 1 cup of brown rice

snack 2 2:00-3:30 ish 2 small cans of flavoured tuna

Preworkout 6oz oats + 1 scoop of protien

Postworkout 1 scoop waxy maize + 1 scoop protien

dinner - Steak/Fish Or Chicken
1 cup brown rice or some kind of carbs + whatever I feel like maybe some corn who knows I like to cook random stuff some days

Bedtime, I usually get tired and skip doing anything and just crash but maybe eat some chunks of whole cottage cheese? i can't stand the creamed shit.



W/O Plan - I'm pretty damn all over the place with his at the moment, I can't figure out whats the best way for me to train. My goal is to get a good deal bigger and be shredded im more concerned with hypertrophy but I find there is so much debate over the best way to train some say heavy compounds 3 days a week some say 5 day split doing isolation at 12 reps

I've done rippetoes recently and had what I felt were good results I found my body seemed to like training this way and I was able to put more effort into my lifts, I was getting strong fast but I dunno if this is the most effiecient way to get bigger. I have recently tried a plan that a trainer put my on when I asked for program to get bigger that has a buttload of excersizes and sets all in the rep range of 12 reps but I found I could only get 1 or 2 sets with a decent weight and have it feel good then I just got so damn tired and the lactic acid was building up so quick that I couldn't lift for crap quite frankly I just felt it was burning me out way too much to be practical

What I would like to do is find the plan that im going to be using for my cycle and stick to it for a while and get all the kinks worked out so im ready to rock it when im on.

Recently was reading an thread on the workouts section that was kind of a mix of both

fullbody
Upper/lower strength (5 reps) on day 1/2 upper/lower hypertrophy day 4/5 (10Reps)

If you're going for a lean bulk just eat clean and bump up your protein and calories over maintenance...Cut out all the meal replacements and such...As for your fats you will take in a lot just from the meats your eating...Just get the rest from UDO'S CHOICE. That's what I do and works well everytime

[Kawaboy]

Ah I forgot to mention I will be taking Adex at .5 mg EOD

Reason I chose tuna is because its like $1.50 a can and it doesnt require cooking, personally I hate tuna I would prefer chicken but I only can buy chicken when its on sale and even then I dont have $200 to fill my freezer with chicken.
but I do my best to eat as much chicken as I can.

Whats wrong with my breakfast ? eggs, chese, ww flax bread whole milk? seems pretty solid to me. I realize ketchup is pretty unhealthy but im not eating the whole bottle lol just as little tsp for flavour

the meal replacement bar can definatly get the heave ho, I just tossed it in there cause its a quick easy snack I usually eat my meals between jobsites during the day or eat it really quick while im at my work van grabbing some parts or somthing

What are some good quick meal ideas that dnt involve a chicken breast and rice every 2 hr?


*edit well this is prob better for the nutritional section so i'll head over there for a while and start tweeking my diet

[kronik420]

Ah I forgot to mention I will be taking Adex at .5 mg EOD

Reason I chose tuna is because its like $1.50 a can and it doesnt require cooking, personally I hate tuna I would prefer chicken but I only can buy chicken when its on sale and even then I dont have $200 to fill my freezer with chicken.
but I do my best to eat as much chicken as I can.

Whats wrong with my breakfast ? eggs, chese, ww flax bread whole milk? seems pretty solid to me. I realize ketchup is pretty unhealthy but im not eating the whole bottle lol just as little tsp for flavour

the meal replacement bar can definatly get the heave ho, I just tossed it in there cause its a quick easy snack I usually eat my meals between jobsites during the day or eat it really quick while im at my work van grabbing some parts or somthing

What are some good quick meal ideas that dnt involve a chicken breast and rice every 2 hr?


*edit well this is prob better for the nutritional section so i'll head over there for a while and start tweeking my diet

good idea

[Honkey_Kong]

Ah I forgot to mention I will be taking Adex at .5 mg EOD

Reason I chose tuna is because its like $1.50 a can and it doesnt require cooking, personally I hate tuna I would prefer chicken but I only can buy chicken when its on sale and even then I dont have $200 to fill my freezer with chicken.
but I do my best to eat as much chicken as I can.

Whats wrong with my breakfast ? eggs, chese, ww flax bread whole milk? seems pretty solid to me. I realize ketchup is pretty unhealthy but im not eating the whole bottle lol just as little tsp for flavour

the meal replacement bar can definatly get the heave ho, I just tossed it in there cause its a quick easy snack I usually eat my meals between jobsites during the day or eat it really quick while im at my work van grabbing some parts or somthing

What are some good quick meal ideas that dnt involve a chicken breast and rice every 2 hr?


*edit well this is prob better for the nutritional section so i'll head over there for a while and start tweeking my diet

First of all, get yourself some Tupperware and wake up 20 minutes earlier every morning so you can prepare your meals for the day (or you could do it the night before).

If you plan on doing steroids, your diet better be spot on or it's a waste of a cycle. And your earlier cycles are going to be your best gains. So it's better to get your shit down right now before you start.

Cheese is okay provided it fits in with your macros and isn't too salty. You might want to stay away from Kraft American Cheese slices.

If chicken breast is too expensive for you, you could eat gizzards and hearts. It's loaded in cholesterol, but it's really cheap and in 1 cup of gizzards and hearts you get 45g of protein. Plus you can get a pound of it at the grocery store for like a buck and a quarter. I know when I was in college and broke, this kept me alive. There are a bunch of ways to prepare it too.

Also you could try eating bison

You could always make dumplings if you don't want to eat rice.