Second cycle what should i use

[mcafee280]

First cycle I used test e 250mg
Body weight 170
Height 5'8"
Bf 5%
Looking to add weight and bulk mostly. Thanks for the advice

[MuscleInk]

What did your first cycle look like? 250mg per week? What were the results? What are your next goals?

[mcafee280]

250mg per week and I gained about 15ibs of muscle mass. Looking to gain more weight this time. Should I use a combination of gear

[MuscleInk]

250mg per week and I gained about 15ibs of muscle mass. Looking to gain more weight this time. Should I use a combination of gear

How long was that first cycle? 15lbs of lean muscle using only 250mg/wk would be unusual as that is generally a very low dose.

My initial thoughts are to have you run another cycle of testosterone only at a much higher dose weekly with a proper cycle length, AI, PCT before recommending stacking compounds.

Post some details on your first cycle and we'll make recommendations for a second. I realize you're looking for advise on a second cycle not a critique of your first but knowing a bit about your first cycle will help us plan your second. A higher test only cycle is my initial thought though.

[Lunk1]

I'll say it...5' 8" 170 @ 5%BF. Pics man....5% is friggin tuff to get and even harder to maintain (not that I would know personaly lol)

[MuscleInk]

I'll say it...5' 8" 170 @ 5%BF. Pics man....5% is friggin tuff to get and even harder to maintain (not that I would know personaly lol)

Yes.....still awaiting details from first cycle.

[mcafee280]

For 12 weeks took 250mg/wk. Every once in a while twice a week.
Nolvadex 10mg ED
Not too sure what Al is.
Is there a specific way to calculate bf. maybe my calculations are off?

[Lunk1]

For 12 weeks took 250mg/wk. Every once in a while twice a week.
Nolvadex 10mg ED
Not too sure what Al is.
Is there a specific way to calculate bf. maybe my calculations are off?

You can post a full body pic (no face) for evaluation.

Honestly your first cycle was f'd up and I would suggest for future safe cycling you follow sound advise from this board. You have done a great service to yourself by coming here

[mcafee280]

I appreciate all the help you guys can provide

[Lunk1]

I appreciate all the help you guys can provide

Looking nice and lean...good mass to but I agree with you on putting on a little more. I would put you about 12-13% (I am not good at that though)

[Lunk1]

Time for a good begginer test only cycle.

Test E or Test C 500mg per week (2X 250mg done on Mon and Thurs)
AI Arimadex @ .25mg EOD

14 days after last inject PCT begins
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 50/25/25/25

And post a daily diet in nutrition. You are going to have to increase cals to gain...no if ands or buts about it. lol (sound like my dad)

[mcafee280]

What would you recommend on a second cycle?

[mcafee280]

Thanks a lot for the advice. I will do just that.

[Lunk1]

Thanks a lot for the advice. I will do just that.

Good luck...keep us posted...

[MuscleInk]

Thanks a lot for the advice. I will do just that.

Lunk has laid out a good cycle.

Your photo looks good. Nutrition is KEY to gains. If you don't eat enough and enough of the right foods, you will struggle with gains.

Certainly do more research. Dosing androgenics without understanding basics such as AIs and WHY they are important is not the way you want to go about things.

The purpose of this forum and it's contributors are to guide and educate people of safety of androgenic substances. You will gain so much more from your cycles if you do your due diligence a learn. Cycling blindly is not the way to go.

Good luck with cycle two. Build your nutrition, follow a proper cycle and read and educate yourself and you will see positive results.

Good luck,

MI

[warmouth]

Good job Lunk! Thats a good one. 15lbs of lean mass in 12 weeks on 250mgs is more likely than not, impossible. I would say alot was possibly water and placibo, only because @ 250mgs, that is close to a TRT dose. Have your PCT and AI on hand before you start the cycle and best of luck to you! Also, BF% is more 13-15%(Noy ab bad thing). You got a great base and should expect to see some great results with the cylce Lunk laid out. Make sure to have everything on hand and dial inthe diet. Diet is the most important thing.

[mcafee280]

Thank you all for your help.