Need help with first cycle ever. Please help!

[Chx beach 79]

This is my first post. I need info on a beginner cycle. Injectable only! I have been researching info for over a year. It can be very confusing.

I am 33 years old 6 "3" 225 lb. 11% body fat . I have been training 5 years 5 days a week 1 hour lifting and 30 minute cardio each time. My eating is disciplined and I can adjust easily to when I want to bulk or get cut.

I need help with a good cycle and how to dose and administer it, also anything I would need for sides.

You need to know as we'll I have been taking TRT for the last 5 years because of a childhood accident with my balls. I will always be on TRT because of this and it is monitored closely. I keep my test at 1,000 give or take 100 always. I just figured that would be important to know.

Thanks for the help and please be brutally honest with me.

[binsser]

What cycle have you researched bud and what do you find confusing after a year you must have something that takes an interest???

[Capebuffalo]

Test e run @ 500mgs per week for 12 weeks
split 250mgs x 2 every 3.5 days
hcg 500 iu split into 2 x a week
adex .25mg eod

On trt so no pct
Enjoy

[Chx beach 79]

I have studied about Winnie for cutting, deca for bulking and tamoxifen for estrogen. Not sure what doses or length. I am looking to get bigger and leaner (who isn't).

[binsser]

do as stated above and deca for first cycle is a no no buddy ull do very good on a test cycle with the training your doing and a perfect diet i personally wouldnt do test-e id do test p and it leans you out more with no bloat but its upto you with prop its ed or eod !

[Chx beach 79]

What cycle have you researched bud and what do you find confusing after a year you must have something that takes an interest???

I was thinking Winnie and deca , with some tamoxifen for estrogen control. What would you recommend?

[binsser]

Test e run @ 500mgs per week for 12 weeks
split 250mgs x 2 every 3.5 days
hcg 500 iu split into 2 x a week
adex .25mg eod

On trt so no pct
Enjoy

this is a fat reply ha ha ha

[binsser]

you can use arimidex to keep estro in place tamox also but its just a blocker !

[Capebuffalo]

First cycle is test only..
Good luck bud

[jarudd23]

U should not run winny an deca without test. Ever. Period. 500mg week of test e or c is what I would recommend for first cycle

[Chx beach 79]

First cycle is test only..
Good luck bud

Even if I am taking my TRT from the dr. Should I discontinue and restart after the cycle or use in addition to the cycle.

[Chx beach 79]

U should not run winny an deca without test. Ever. Period. 500mg week of test e or c is what I would recommend for first cycle

I'm taking TRT. Will that be good enough?

[Chx beach 79]

this is a fat reply ha ha ha

I know this is probably amateur but what is HCG ?

[Capebuffalo]

I know this is probably amateur but what is HCG ?

Use the search function. Educational threads. Etc.

[Chx beach 79]

First cycle is test only..
Good luck bud

Thanks, Bro!

[Capebuffalo]

It's called blast cruise on TRT. Look it up. That's what you want

[Chx beach 79]

Whats up fella's? My doctor has me on 750 mg of test a week. Should I add to that for my first test cycle only? Or do you think since I have been on test so long and at such I high dose i can move to something stronger?i have blood tests every 3 months and everything is always perfect ( chlosterol, liver function, rbc, etc.). Can i move to another steroid in addition to this? I have access to winstrol , deca and dbol . All injectables. Any advice will be great! Also he keeps me a prescription for tamoxifen on hand in case I need it for estrogen. (Never needed it though). Should I ask him for something else or is that good enough?

Also how long between my cycles since no PCT is needed?

[OnTheSauce]

No he doesnt

[panntastic]

Seriously 750mg a week!!!! That to me seems a lot mate

[Capebuffalo]

Are you sure 750mgs thats 3 x trt dose about. Thats crazy. Thats more than a normal cycle

[Chx beach 79]

3 pumps of androgel on shoulders in morning 7x a week 20mg of test each pump. and he allows me two pumps of axiron under my arms at night 30 mg of test per pump. It is not injectable I don't know if that matters. I started out at 1 pump androgel 5 years ago only 20mg per day and we have been slowly been going up because the blood tests are always good, he says it is doing no harm keeping it high, because my body doesn't produce very much on its own if any.

Is that not standard for TRT? I was understanding that's how all doctors that specialize in HRT do it. My doctor does a lot of this stuff with athletes and body builders. At 35 they will start giving HGH as well. Luckily since it is a medical condition my insurance covers all blood tests and check ups and the majority of my prescription costs. Still it is not idea having low test naturally but I have to work with what I got.

The only thing that sucks is I have to shave my face and shoulders about twice a day! Haha.

[njs]

I did a few boxes of the single serving gel. I think its not as strong even if you doing 750 a week its probably under if it was put inside the muscle. Your skin is taking the test in so it might not take as much as forcing it in the muscle where your body has no choice but to take it.

[Chx beach 79]

I did a few boxes of the single serving gel. I think its not as strong even if you doing 750 a week its probably under if it was put inside the muscle. Your skin is taking the test in so it might not take as much as forcing it in the muscle where your body has no choice but to take it.

Yeah I would be interested to see if there is any proof to how much is actually absorbed threw the skin as Apposed to in the muscle. I can definitely feel a rush every time I take it.

[Chx beach 79]

I did a few boxes of the single serving gel. I think its not as strong even if you doing 750 a week its probably under if it was put inside the muscle. Your skin is taking the test in so it might not take as much as forcing it in the muscle where your body has no choice but to take it.

Yeah. I wonder if there as any articles about how much is absorbed threw the skin as opposed to in the muscles. I can definitely feel it every time I apply.

[Chx beach 79]

My test level is consistently between 900 and 1100. 365 days a year.

Is that to high? Or could it benefit raising it even more?

[Capebuffalo]

Is this for real

[Chx beach 79]

Is this for real

In what sense?

[Capebuffalo]

Testosterone gels (e.g. Testogel) contain 1% testosterone that is absorbed through the skin. The gel is applied to the skin on the abdomen, shoulder or arm on a daily basis. The standard dose is 5 g (50 mg testosterone), although the dose may be increased to as much as 10 g daily in some men, while others will respond adequately to 2.5 g daily.

[Chx beach 79]

With that being said. Do you still feel I should do a test e cycle first? Since I have been taking test for so long or should I start with something else in addition to it?

[Chx beach 79]

Testosterone gels (e.g. Testogel) contain 1% testosterone that is absorbed through the skin. The gel is applied to the skin on the abdomen, shoulder or arm on a daily basis. The standard dose is 5 g (50 mg testosterone), although the dose may be increased to as much as 10 g daily in some men, while others will respond adequately to 2.5 g daily.

So that is saying about 700 mg of test weekly. I'm only slightly over that.

[Capebuffalo]

I would post in the trt section. They have hands on experience with trt and hrt. Thats the best advise I have at this point.

[Chx beach 79]

I would post in the trt section. They have hands on experience with trt and hrt. Thats the best advise I have at this point.

Will do. Thanks for all the help!