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    First real cutting cycle,Help?

    I am 47 yrs young I have done about 3 bulking cycles since I turned over 45..I want to cut some weight and get more defined any help would be great..I will give you my stats and workout in brief..I am 6ft1 260lbs at 14% bf I want to get done to 235-240..I workout 4 days a week doing the fst7 program..I also do 1hr of cardio 3 days a week...here is the cycle I got and will be taking ..Mastron 100 2cc's eod,primo 100 2cc's eod [along with mastron m,w,f]and also test cyp 250 2cc's once a week..[have low test naturally thats why I started with other stuff]now I am doing a 10 week cycle and the last for weeks I will be adding 50mg of anavar once a day for 4 weeks..along with arimdex and nolvadex for the last 3 weeks of my cycle..I have never done a cutting cycle before mostly test 400,tren ,deca ,..so am I doing the right combo or should my bf be lower before doing anything..also stupid question everything I got was british dragon is this stuff legit?thought they closed up?thxs guys...

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    WOW. 14% BF @ 260 lbs? Impressive.

    Test and Var will do wonders if you can continue with cardio. I get shin pumps that affect cardio efforts.

    Primo dose looks good but that compound needs to be used for 16 weeks or more at minimum.

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    There are a few things in here that need adressed. I am just going to hit and run and leave the rest for others.
    1) Test should be injected 2X a week to help maintain stable blood levels
    2) Mast will do you almost NO good unless you are 12% and below. At your height and weight I would bet $ your over 14% (but I could be wrong)
    3)Adex should be taken throughout the cycle from first pin to last and Nolv is for your PCT (unlesss your TRT) if not I would also add Clomid to the Nolva for PCT

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    Thxs guys yeah I weighed in at 262 and was at 14% ..I want to get done to about 9% I am trt thats why I am doing the arimidex /nolva..my blood work is fine but my test levals at 47 were at 187 which is way low..I had a ex pro bodybuilder sway me towards the cycle I am doing I heard mastron wont help if im below 12% but with my diet and cardio I should be down there soon..I have never done either mastron/or primo so wasn't sure if there were side affects?I did test 400 on one cycle and holy crap I felt like I had the flu for a week..you say take test twice a week?why?test cyc has a longer life I thought and its 250 not 200 so its 500 a week are you saying do 1000 a week?also does anyone have a answer on bd products?

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    Bd used to be great but my undrstanding is that there are alot of fakes available now since they got in a bit of trouble.

    Cyp's half life is only hours longer than E and the more often injected the better. Reality is injecting any steroid ED would be the best protocol but most want nothing to do with that many pokes. I am saying 250X2 3.5 days apart will give you better levels.

    Is this self prescribed TRT or prescrip.

    Materron wont show unless your UNDER 12%. It.s a finishing compound for guys before getting on stage. It helps provide that tighter more fiberous look. If your not 12% or below by cycle then I would save it.

    How are you measuring BF% Honestly I would love to see a pic...those are great stats

    I think you could also keep the nolva on hand during cycle incase any signs of gyno appear. Thats my opinion!

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    The answer to the first question is the dr prescribed the test cyp but at the pharmacy its 3 times more expensive for a 10ml then a 25ml so I just buy the 25ml,s..I have read the bd have a bar code on the new stuff yet I have never seen this?is this still true since 2009?I understand about the mastoron and being under 12% but I am going to run it anyways just for a booster..and your right sticking my self 7 times is bad enough ..lol I do have plenty of nolva if I start getting sore nipples..but honestly the only time I have had that is when I ran test 400 1000 ml a week..my dr..put me on 400 of cyp a week so I figure 500 is close enough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by harleydog View Post
    The answer to the first question is the dr prescribed the test cyp but at the pharmacy its 3 times more expensive for a 10ml then a 25ml so I just buy the 25ml,s..I have read the bd have a bar code on the new stuff yet I have never seen this?is this still true since 2009?I understand about the mastoron and being under 12% but I am going to run it anyways just for a booster..and your right sticking my self 7 times is bad enough ..lol I do have plenty of nolva if I start getting sore nipples..but honestly the only time I have had that is when I ran test 400 1000 ml a week..my dr..put me on 400 of cyp a week so I figure 500 is close enough..
    Doc prescribed 400mg...wow (where ya at Austin lol)? Thats a pretty heavy dose for TRT, normal is usually around 200mg or less.

    I have no further info on your BD, perhaps someone else using it can anser for you.

    Good luck with your cycle and the Mast. I actually dropped mine because of my higher BF% but to each there own. It still has some noteable qualities even over 12% For example it assists other compounds such as tren or primo to work more efficiantly so it still may be a bit of help to you.

    I still would love to see full body pics posted (no face), 47 y.o. with those stats you should show off my man!!!

    Also perhaps if you are interested you would post this cycle and keep updating in the members cycle forum. It's always helpfull for others to see how thing are or are not working for others. Thanks for your time and good luck!

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    have no clue how to add a picture or I would..funny thing is everyone always calls me stone cold ..lol Yeah I think the dr.messed up and wanted 200 a week but on my old bottles it says twice a week 200 mg intermuscle..so why not at 47 it can only help..

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    LOL..as we age we learn how to work things to our advantage lol. If you click^ that icon next to the think that looks like movie reel tape (it says image if you hold over it) it let's you do a basic upload.

    Love to see it!!! you got me all sorts of curious lol

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    sorry lunk im having no luck..i can get the picture profile but when i upload it ,it says cannot be done..I have no clue where your talking about

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    When you respond on this thread there is an option bar above the box you are typing in. 4th icon from the right is the one you click and it brings up a browse box that I think says basic uploader on the right bottom corner. You have to have the pic saved then press browse. It will take you to your pic file. open the file you wish to upload then press upload. Fairly simple. If you are doing it from a phone I have no clue lol.

    headed to the gym...hopefully you get it figured out. Peace

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ID:	127826I am not sure it worked but heres one if it works I will get a couple of different shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by harleydog View Post
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ID:	127826I am not sure it worked but heres one if it works I will get a couple of different shots
    Yes it did..major props my man...looking fantastic. Love to see a leg shot (man that sound gay lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Yes it did..major props my man...looking fantastic. Love to see a leg shot (man that sound gay lol)
    Reaaly:/
    HHhahaah lunk you always crack me up

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    lol well I have heard worse but from my ex wife..I dont have any leg shots without my face being in them just like ab shots..I know I am around 14% holding some water in my stomach and legs but think the stack im on will help..

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