adding Masteron

[Bouch]

I was talking with my source and he was saying that for my cutting cycle that I am on right now I should add Masteron for the last 6 weeks of the cycle.

Current cycle:

Test e 250- 1ml 2x per weeks = total 500mg test e / week
tren hex 150- .75ml 2x/ week = total 225mg tren hex / week

running test e weeks 1-10
running tren hex weeks 1-7

what are your thoughts?

[austinite]

You're already on a good cycle. Last person you want advice from is your $alesman.

Keep doing what you're doing and you can incorporate mast in future cycles.

[Lunk1]

Mast is best if BF is well under 12%. If your not planning to step on stage then save it. He is a drug dealer so it stnds to reason he will push more compounds lol.

[Bouch]

Thanks Ill stay with what i got for this time around. makes sense that he would want to make more $$$

[songdog]

Thats how they make their money off people who dont know any better.

[chi]

masteron is a great anti aromatase and it dries you out plus it is androgenic so it does have fat loss capabilities dependent on dosing. I love masteron and run it with every cycle for it's anti estrogenic properties. It also increases my strength and aggression. It won't cut fat like tren does and you are already on that I guess it depends on how much money you got to spend.

[Lunk1]

masteron is a great anti aromatase and it dries you out plus it is androgenic so it does have fat loss capabilities dependent on dosing. I love masteron and run it with every cycle for it's anti estrogenic properties. It also increases my strength and aggression. It won't cut fat like tren does and you are already on that I guess it depends on how much money you got to spend.

I have to disagree with part of this Chi. I'm not saying this might be or might not be the case for you but I feel Masthas such low AI abilities that it really isn't one of the attributes worth bragging about. A solid AI should still be used.

I will add to your praise of Mast though and say that it also allows other compounds (especially tren imo) to work more effectively and efficiantly! I would most likely never run just a test/mast cycle!

[chi]

I have to disagree with part of this Chi. I'm not saying this might be or might not be the case for you but I feel Masthas such low AI abilities that it really isn't one of the attributes worth bragging about. A solid AI should still be used.

I will add to your praise of Mast though and say that it also allows other compounds (especially tren imo) to work more effectively and efficiantly! I would most likely never run just a test/mast cycle!

ummm you are completely wrong in thinking that, they prescribe masteron for teenage gyno. I have taken masteron and it is widely known that is a very strong AI while on you might want to research on this a bit more.

[chi]

I have to disagree with part of this Chi. I'm not saying this might be or might not be the case for you but I feel Masthas such low AI abilities that it really isn't one of the attributes worth bragging about. A solid AI should still be used.

I will add to your praise of Mast though and say that it also allows other compounds (especially tren imo) to work more effectively and efficiantly! I would most likely never run just a test/mast cycle!

ummm you are completely wrong in thinking that, they prescribe masteron for teenage gyno. I have taken masteron and it is widely known that is a very strong AI while on. You might want to research on this a bit more.

[Sworder]

ummm you are completely wrong in thinking that, they prescribe masteron for teenage gyno. I have taken masteron and it is widely known that is a very strong AI while on. You might want to research on this a bit more.

Wow, care to provide a reference for a Medical Doctor to prescribe a teenager an AAS for gyno reversal?

[chi]

Wow, care to provide a reference for a Medical Doctor to prescribe a teenager an AAS for gyno reversal?

Am I in the idiot zone today?

[Lunk1]

ummm you are completely wrong in thinking that, they prescribe masteron for teenage gyno. I have taken masteron and it is widely known that is a very strong AI while on. You might want to research on this a bit more.

So serious you had to dbl post lol. If taking Mast makes one an expert than I guess we are on a level playing field. I have a drawer full of it now lol. No matter I simply was RESPECTFULLY disagreeing on the idea of Mast as an effective AI.

I guess you must have research to back up Mast used as an AI I presume since you ask me to research it's innefectiveness as an AI. If you have some research to back that up I would love to read it and say that I learned something I was not aware of on this glorious Monday

[chi]

Masteron is also prescribed for cancer I am sure you didn't know that either right?

[Sworder]

ummm you are completely wrong in thinking that, they prescribe masteron for teenage gyno. I have taken masteron and it is widely known that is a very strong AI while on. You might want to research on this a bit more.

^

Am I in the idiot zone today?

I hope not! Just wondering where you got that information from!

Masteron is also prescribed for cancer I am sure you didn't know that either right?

I have heard of that yes, a lot of AAS are used to prevent muscle wasting.

[Lunk1]

Am I in the idiot zone today?

WOW...now if someone disagree's with you they are automaticly an idiot. Hmmmm ***note to self*** do not disagree with Chi and avoid being an idiot!

I wouls imagine a knowledgable member could either back up their info or at least refrain from retorting with name calling when some one has a different opinion? Maybe not??

[chi]

So serious you had to dbl post lol. If taking Mast makes one an expert than I guess we are on a level playing field. I have a drawer full of it now lol. No matter I simply was RESPECTFULLY disagreeing on the idea of Mast as an effective AI.

I guess you must have research to back up Mast used as an AI I presume since you ask me to research it's innefectiveness as an AI. If you have some research to back that up I would love to read it and say that I learned something I was not aware of on this glorious Monday

did you get 3000 posts just posting nonsense? You can google it and find out yourself it is the most effective and strongest AI that it is used to treat breast cancer. Btw look at what it says below my name, admin didnt give me that because I spread false information.

[Lunk1]

Masteron is also prescribed for cancer I am sure you didn't know that either right?

Yes I am aware of Mast and other steroids beiong prescribed for cancer treatment and AIDS treatment and cronic wasting treatment...but I have never heard or seen info on Mast being prescribed as an AI

[chi]

Here you go right from this site's steroid profiles that are cited

http://www.steroid.com/Masteron.php

[Lunk1]

did you get 3000 posts just posting nonsense? You can google it and find out yourself it is the most effective and strongest AI that it is used to treat breast cancer. Btw look at what it says below my name, admin didnt give me that because I spread false information.

Well I guess your statements are fact then because of the title under your name! I was being very respectfull and trying to find out how or why you believed Mast to be an EFFECTIVE AI! Apperently it is because you say so! It would seem to me I have seen guys like Swifto and Marcus also agree that an AI should be used EVEN while using Mast on cycle...but hey...

[Lunk1]

Chi, look...I am not saying Mast doesn't have AI abilities. Never did I say that. I am just saying it is not effective enough to be counted on as an AI and that an AI such as Adex or Aromasin should STILL be used! If you and I disagree then so be it. This should have never been an argument, it should have been a simple discussion between 2 ppl with different vies and opinions.

[chi]

Well I guess your statements are fact then because of the title under your name! I was being very respectfull and trying to find out how or why you believed Mast to be an EFFECTIVE AI! Apperently it is because you say so! It would seem to me I have seen guys like Swifto and Marcus also agree that an AI should be used EVEN while using Mast on cycle...but hey...

sure let marcus or bonaparte chime in. do any search on masteron and you will see for yourself I am not going to quote medical journals here bud I mean get real. Plus alot of members talk from experience here and knowledge from other respected members sorry you feel the way you do because you are ignorant to the fact

[Lunk1]

sure let marcus or bonaparte chime in. do any search on masteron and you will see for yourself I am not going to quote medical journals here bud I mean get real. Plus alot of members talk from experience here and knowledge from other respected members sorry you feel the way you do because you are ignorant to the fact

I think most would agree that many of the steroid profiles are a bit dated and should be updated with newer info. My opinion is based off of personal experience with Mast, research AND the opinion of respected vets.

We simply disagree on a point and it is what it is...still not sure how that required or deserved anyone to be reffered to as an idiot or ignorant. Thanks for your time and patience!

[Sworder]

You won't find a doctor prescribing Masteron for gyno reversal and people may read that and try to use it for that purpose. For gyno reversal, tamoxifen or raloxifene is the best to use. AIs are to reduce estrogen not typically used for gyno reversal.

Masteron for cancer is a different topic than gyno reversal.

[chi]

You won't find a doctor prescribing Masteron for gyno reversal and people may read that and try to use it for that purpose. For gyno reversal, tamoxifen or raloxifene is the best to use. AIs are to reduce estrogen not typically used for gyno reversal.

Masteron for cancer is a different topic than gyno reversal.

did you know that gynecomatsia is a breast cancer in men?
http://breastcancer.about.com/od/typ...necomastia.htm

[Sworder]

did you know that gynecomatsia is a breast cancer in men?
http://breastcancer.about.com/od/typ...necomastia.htm

Google is good:
gyn·e·co·mas·ti·a/ˌgīnəkōˈmastēə/
Noun:
Enlargement of a man's breasts, usually due to hormone imbalance or hormone therapy.


Gyno is not cancer, it's a prerequisite for male breast cancer but not cancer in itself.

[Lunk1]

You won't find a doctor prescribing Masteron for gyno reversal and people may read that and try to use it for that purpose. For gyno reversal, tamoxifen or raloxifene is the best to use. AIs are to reduce estrogen not typically used for gyno reversal.

Masteron for cancer is a different topic than gyno reversal.

Sworder...this isn't even quite my point. I am in disagreement that Mast can or should be used as an EFFECTIVE AI while cycling. I am not talking about gyno revearsal or muscle wasting and why steroids like Mast are prescribed for that.

I simply ask that if someone/anyone has solid info that Mast can or should be used as an AI on a steroid cycle the please present it. If this can bot be done I will, from my own experience and research continue to suggest that an ACTUAL AI still be used in congunction with Mast.

If someone/anyone can provide something that proves Mast IS effective BY IT'S SELF as an AI then I will gladly admit I was wrong and be stood corrected.

Calling me an idiot or ignorant is far from proof. Hell I know those 2 facts already

[chi]

lets put this to bed............ masteron was developed to counter breast cancers as well as to lower cholesterol. There is no definitive proof or study for it's effectiveness in the world of aas as an AI. Thats it. Done we all can be happy with that answer



edit* forgot words since im rushing to the gym

[Metalject]

Masteron is a stronger anti-estrogen than some give it credit for, a lot stronger. I'm not saying it's equal to some anti-estrogens but it's not weak by any means. And yes, it is prescribed for estrogen positive breast cancer, even in the U.S. but it's not as commonly as prescribed as it once was.

Chi, Drostanolone will have a negative impact on cholesterol, more so than many steroids .

And LOL at all the people knocking a source for wanting to make money. I love (hate) how people talk about sources on message boards. People get so pissed off when a source is trying to make money....it's retarded. It's almost like in the back of their minds people think sources exist to be their little brotastic buddy and help them out.

[Lunk1]

From 1968 to 1972, a decent sized study was conducted on Masteron , in a group of premenopausal women with breast cancer. About a third responded well to Masteron (6). This is because of its anti-estrogenic effects, clearly- though it doesn’t perform as well as Arimidex , Letrozole , or Aromasin .

Cut and pasted after a quick google search!

[stpete]

People want to believe it's a 2 for 1 product.

It is not.

[Lunk1]

People want to believe it's a 2 for 1 product.

It is not.

This discussion did cause me to search a bit more for info on Mast I never paid as much attention too before.

I do believe (after researching) that Mast may be sufficient enough on a mild cycle such as test/mast or perhaps even test/mast/var but if running any substantial doses or stronger compound especially tren , npp or deca along with Mast then another AI is definetly needed!

[austinite]

It's irrelevant; regardless of what anyone believes. There is more to an AI than estrogen control, so even on a mast cycle, it's still needed.

[Lunk1]

It's irrelevant; regardless of what anyone believes. There is more to an AI than estrogen control, so even on a mast cycle, it's still needed.

It's not irrelevant when my point is that Mast is NOT sufficent alone as an AI. In fact your comment supports my point Austin...could you please elaborate why an AI would still be important please???

[stpete]

This discussion did cause me to search a bit more for info on Mast I never paid as much attention too before.

I do believe (after researching) that Mast may be sufficient enough on a mild cycle such as tren/mast or perhaps even test/mast/var but if running any substantial doses or stronger compound especially tren, npp or deca along with Mast then another AI is definetly needed!

Are you suggesting that an AI is only needed if running two 19-nors including mast? Kinda sounds like it as you mentioned it was ok w/tren only.

[Lunk1]

Are you suggesting that an AI is only needed if running two 19-nors including mast? Kinda sounds like it as you mentioned it was ok w/tren only.

LOL...hopefully you think better of me than to believe I would even consider that a viable cycle...meant to type TEST..edited (thanks Pete)

[stpete]

haha...I knew better.

[Lunk1]

I am not happy about the way this discussion went but I am happy it caused me to due further research. I learned a few valuable things about Mast this afternoon that I was not already aware of. In my book thats a win

[t-dogg]

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