b12 while on cycle questikn?

**freddy1418** · 10-15-2012, 07:50 PM

Should I pin it IM or is ot just as effective SUBQ??? was wondering cause id obviously rather go with subcutaneous then IM for pain purposes.. currently running long esters to stay away from frequent pinning bit wanted to add b12 in the cycle... do I have to pin b12 everyday? And is 500mcg ok or should I go with the 1000mcg??? Thanks for any feedback

**MickeyKnox** · 10-15-2012, 07:52 PM

b12 is to pinned IM.

**Phased** · 10-15-2012, 07:55 PM

Mix it up with your cyp or Enth, and pin it.
500mcg on Monday and Thursday works well.
Good luck

**MickeyKnox** · 10-15-2012, 08:10 PM

Sorry just realized you asked for frequency. This depends on your B12 Levels from bloodwork, however most docs prescribe once a month @ 1000mcg.

**Phased** · 10-15-2012, 08:24 PM

What a doctor prescribes for B-12 deficiency is completely different then what a person using them with AAS

There is really no upper levels that are not tolerable, you really cannot overdose b-12, I am not sure if there is even a upper tolerable intake limit for other B's since a lot of the injectables such as vitamins b12 contains other vitamins such as riboflavin, niacinmide and so on.

Usually b12 is used for macrocytic anemia, which is treated with just a couple injects a month. Sometimes only once per month. That is why the box says 100mcg to 1000mcg once per month since b12 injections are used to treat macrocytic anemia. Just be sure to drink plenty of water.

The dosage and frequency of injections depends on what your trying to accomplish.

If you're just looking to increase your appetite and energy levels, I'd use it sparingly. Maybe up to a couple times a week. Since, for me anways, the appetite and energy effects dissipate pretty quickly, after a week or so. I'd use it just when you're run down, or appetite is on empty.

Keep us posted

**MickeyKnox** · 10-15-2012, 09:06 PM

Freddy, forgot to mention there are three different types of B12, Cyancobalamin, Hydroxocobalamin, and Methylcobalamin. I'm currently using methylcobalamin and i believe this to be the best one. If I'm not mistaken, I think cyancobalamin is commonly used for chems.

**Sworder** · 10-15-2012, 09:24 PM

1000mcg/week is what I do. ar-r carries some if I am not mistaken, then there are other one's which have short and long acting in them. Pharma grade that is expensive, it's the good stuff. Don't follow the box LMAO

**Phased** · 10-15-2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Sworder

Don't follow the box LMAO

Or the doctor

**MickeyKnox** · 10-15-2012, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sworder

1000mcg/week is what I do. ar-r carries some if I am not mistaken, then there are other one's which have short and long acting in them. Pharma grade that is expensive, it's the good stuff. Don't follow the box LMAO

Really? I pay 4.99 for mine at the pharmacy. 1000mcg/ML @ 10ML

**Sworder** · 10-15-2012, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Really? I pay 4.99 for mine at the pharmacy. 1000mcg/ML @ 10ML

What's the brand? I pay x10 that but get more, I am cheap so fifty bucks is a lot for me

**marcus300** · 10-15-2012, 09:47 PM

1000mcg ed is what I've used with my bulking cycles, anything less doesn't seem to hit him. At that dose I get a great feeling of well being and emense appetite.

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 09:49 PM

^ Same here.

**MuscleInk** · 10-15-2012, 09:50 PM

B12 can be dosed subQ. I run 1ml (1000mcg) daily for 7 days then drop back to 1ml EOD.

**Gi812Many** · 10-15-2012, 09:52 PM

^^^Agree with Marcus...I use Cyanocobalamin B-12, requires me to hit daily. I run it at 1000mcg and do it SQ. Works for me wonders.....

**Rwy** · 10-15-2012, 09:53 PM

Is their a down side to using b12 eod

I have been thinking bout trying it when I buy an ai from ar-r

**Sgt. Hartman** · 10-15-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

1000mcg ed is what I've used with my bulking cycles, anything less doesn't seem to hit him. At that dose I get a great feeling of well being and emense appetite.

Same here but it seems to only work for a week or so and then it has almost no effect, i guess my body gets used to it.

**marcus300** · 10-15-2012, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

Same here but it seems to only work for a week or so and then it has almost no effect, i guess my body gets used to it.

I've had guys who react the same, try doing week on week off that seems to work for them.

**MuscleInk** · 10-15-2012, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rwy

Is their a down side to using b12 eod

I have been thinking bout trying it when I buy an ai from ar-r

B12 is generally safe although there hasn't been enough studies to establish toxicities. There are however risk factors for sub populations:
- After coronary stenting, vitamin B12 can increase rates of restenosis.
- b12 may also raise BP in hypertensive patients.
- in patients with GI distress, B12 can increase the incidence of nausea and diarrhea
- in patients with pre-existing hematological issues, the hematopoietic nature of B12 can increase RBC and cause polycythemia vera
- in patients with low potassium, B12 could lead to hypokalemia
- patients susceptible to or having a hx of gout may experience an increased incidence of gout when using B12