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    Anadrol w/ Tren Cycle HELP NO CABER!!!!

    50mg anadrol / day
    300mg Tren E week
    200mg test E week

    Have clomiphene and Arimidex (G2G)

    Found out my CABER IS BULLSHIT long story don't ask.

    Whats the deal. Will arimidex and clomid prevent gyno.

    Do i really need caber with tren and anadrol.

    Will arimidex and clomiphene prevent gyno or am i ****ed

    If i need to stop I will but I would rather continue the cycle

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    How long you planning on running the adrol?
    I would just run it weeks 1-4 50mg ED.
    Clomid is PCT, Adex will help with on cycle gyno

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    50mg ED drol weeks 1-4
    Tren E 300mg / week weeks 1-7

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    No worries Dawg. You can pick up prami at the site sponsor AR-R . But if you control your e2, you likely won't require caber/prami. However it's wise to have on hand.

    Run your Arimidex on cycle @ .25 eod to start and monitor from there. I would also recommend some HCG on cycle to prevent testicular atrophy. 250iu 2/wk and your gtg.

    Good luck!

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    I will purchase the liquid PRAMI.....have you ever used G2G?

    What dose of PRAMI should I take in the liquid form? 1mg everyday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDawg View Post
    I will purchase the liquid PRAMI.....have you ever used G2G?

    What dose of PRAMI should I take in the liquid form? 1mg everyday?
    No way to much, start at .125mg EOD at night and see how you respond. Can cause severe nausea. I would stay away from caber and prami though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDawg View Post
    50mg anadrol / day
    300mg Tren E week
    200mg test E week

    Have clomiphene and Arimidex (G2G)

    Found out my CABER IS BULLSHIT long story don't ask.

    Whats the deal. Will arimidex and clomid prevent gyno.

    Do i really need caber with tren and anadrol.

    Will arimidex and clomiphene prevent gyno or am i ****ed

    If i need to stop I will but I would rather continue the cycle
    Cycle's kinda weak. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're gyno prone.? What have you ran before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDawg View Post
    I will purchase the liquid PRAMI.....have you ever used G2G?

    What dose of PRAMI should I take in the liquid form? 1mg everyday?
    Yes Dawg, it's a liquid form. Dose your prami at .25 e3d before bed as some people experience nausea and/or become lethargic. But you likely wont require it if AI is used.

    Cheers!
    Last edited by MickeyKnox; 10-15-2012 at 09:46 PM.

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    Keep it on hand if you want but don't use it until you get "symptoms". Those drugs can cause worse symptoms which are worse than the ones you are trying to avoid..

    Agree with StPete cycle looks weak..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Yes Dawg, it's a liquid form. Dose your prami at .25 ed before bed as some people experience nausea and/or become lethargic. But you likely wont require it if AI is used.

    Cheers!
    What you trying to kill him? You must be joking .25MG ED for that cycle, he barely needs it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Cycle's kinda weak. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're gyno prone.? What have you ran before?
    Agreed. I think it's easy to assume side effects are guaranteed when you read a lot of stuff online, when the truth is they're possible, not guaranteed. And you're right, odds of gyno with this cycle are slim.

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    Why are you running the Tren E only for 7 weeks? Atleast go out to week 8....As far as an AI preventing gyno on Tren, wont do a thing for you. I've got enormous experience with Tren, up to 1.2g weekly. Cant speak for Caber, never used it. Prami on the other hand, have experience with it. As stated above by Phased, start lowwwww...I have gotting so sick off Prami and it can last up to 24hrs. I have found running it twice a week, Monday and Friday does the trick at .2mgs. And me personally, I like running a higher dose of Test when on Tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    As stated above by Phased, start lowwwww...I have gotting so sick off Prami and it can last up to 24hrs. I have found running it twice a week, Monday and Friday does the trick at .2mgs.
    Exactly

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    .25mgED is way too much. Like Gi812Many and Phased say, start low if you are gonna use it!!

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    Mick you have to stop handing out advice you are starting to fall off the tracks tonight.
    Last edited by Phased; 10-15-2012 at 09:44 PM. Reason: spelling

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    When I have the PRAMI (which I ordered )

    100mg DROL day
    400mg TREN E week
    200mg TEST week

    I am already 1 week into my cycle hence why I posted weeks 1-7 (sorry for the confusion)

    Theres already 500mg tren in my body

    Until the PRAMI arrives I dropped the dosages.

    I can already get a slight slight slight drop of moisture out of my nips if I try (whats that)

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    We need to start over, we need stats, past cycle history, age, diet. This is getting worse as we go along.

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    Sounds like lactation? Thank god I have never had that...Heard other guys who have gotting it. Maybe someone could chime in on that, not to informed on lactation. Bro, im telling you up your Test to atleast 400mgs/weekly. To low regardless of the Tren . For me I have only ran Tren one time at a higher dosage and couldnt stand the way I felt, the sides were far more worse when I ran higher dose than my Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    What you trying to kill him? You must be joking .25MED for that cycle, he barely needs it at all.
    That's was suppose to be every THIRD day.

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    Wait I thought you were going to run Anadrol ? Think you got it backwards, common to run 100mgs Anadrol, not to common with Dbol ....Although 100mgs dbol would be beast mode

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    It's just a yellow oily substance, that's from estrogen. I can get that too if I really squeeze on em

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    That's was suppose to be every THIRD day.
    So right after St.Pete and I say you dont even need it you tell him he needs .25mg ED or EOD.
    Roger that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    We need to start over, we need stats, past cycle history, age, diet. This is getting worse as we go along.
    Exactly!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    Sounds like lactation? Thank god I have never had that...Heard other guys who have gotting it. Maybe someone could chime in on that, not to informed on lactation. Bro, im telling you up your Test to atleast 400mgs/weekly. To low regardless of the Tren. For me I have only ran Tren one time at a higher dosage and couldnt stand the way I felt, the sides were far more worse when I ran higher dose than my Test.
    Higher test = less sides. It's pretty much the norm and i agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    So right after St.Pete and I say you dont even need it you tell him he needs .25mg ED or EOD.
    Roger that
    This form of bullying isn't benifical to thee board, the op or each other.I am not sure where this is coming from but there are better, more respectful ways to offer corrections to advise you feel is incorrect...wouldn't you say??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Yes Dawg, it's a liquid form. Dose your prami at .25 e3d before bed as some people experience nausea and/or become lethargic. But you likely wont require it if AI is used.

    Cheers!
    What part of bolds did you not see the first time around? My edit only included the 3. And if you want to get smart ill be more that happy to accommodate your wise crack with your post the other day where you advised a newbie on his FIRST cycle to do 700mg of test and 600mg of tren with two orals.

    It happens. Don't be an idiot. You have something to say to me, take it to PM. Don't ruin another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    This form of bullying isn't benifical to thee board, the op or each other.I am not sure where this is coming from but there are better, more respectful ways to offer corrections to advise you feel is incorrect...wouldn't you say??
    Exactly. This nonsense has to stop. If you're upset and crying because i won't accept your friend request, you just going to have to grow up and be mature about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    This form of bullying isn't benifical to thee board, the op or each other.I am not sure where this is coming from but there are better, more respectful ways to offer corrections to advise you feel is incorrect...wouldn't you say??
    When someone hands out incorrect advice then go against what the Monitor are saying is going to get someone hurt. But if you want to take over then so be it, I just dont want someone dosing themselves with .25MG of Prami ED or EOD for no reason.

    I defer to your judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Exactly. This nonsense has to stop. If you're upset and crying because i won't accept your friend request, you just going to have to grow up and be mature about this.
    you didn't accept my friend request either and I still love ya...want some damn Moose though Rocky!

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    Prami can make people feel like crap, blasting letro too! Where is OP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    You hand out incorrect advice then go against what the Monitor are saying is going to get someone hurt. But if you want to take over then so be it, I just dont want someone dosing themselves with .25MG of Prami ED or EOD for no reason.

    I defer to your judgement.
    Think your qouting the wrong guy Phased...either way. Time out and you 2 can either drop it or go to PM...this looks childish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Think your qouting the wrong guy Phased...either way. Time out and you 2 can either drop it or go to PM...this looks childish
    Yea I had to edit that to "when someone"
    Not talking about you buddy
    No worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    Prami can make people feel like crap, blasting letro too! Where is OP?
    I agree...I really believe in keeping estro down and you SOULD have no need for prolactin control...but safe to keep around!

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    I typed a long response and it wouldn't let me reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDawg View Post
    I typed a long response and it wouldn't let me reply
    Don't give up! Try again

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDawg View Post
    I typed a long response and it wouldn't let me reply
    may have to shorten or change wording around as it may be getting caught by the spam filter

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    OP to get back on track we need lots more info and this cycle needs to be overhauled, Tren and adrol is not by any means a beginner or intermediate cycle"

    Please give us more info as I requested earlier to help you the best.

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    I dont know, guys 400mgs/weekly of Tren could definitely create some prolactin issues. Again everyone is different but, if you do get gyno running 200mgs/weekly Test and 400mgs/weekly of Tren I will bet my life on it that its going to be a prolactin issue. But, regardless dont mess around with Prami, you will experience the first time you puked while having a hard on....LOL

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    To keep this simple trust that I have my diet and exercise in check . my experience is too long to list

    Trust that I read the entire anabolics book by william llewellyns and everything else I can get my hands on

    I will admit I am a NEWB when it comes to AAS but I do have a solid knowledge base

    STATS
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    weight 190
    height 5'10"

    3 cycles

    I am going to run this cycle for my 4th cycle...I am also coming off a shoulder injury so I have lost some mass

    TEST E 200mg weeks 1 - 12
    TREN E 300mg weeks 1 - 8
    ANADROL 50-100mg ED weeks 1 - 4

    I have cycled

    TEST

    TEST / TREN / WINNY

    TEST / WINNY

    I will always keep test lower than tren

    I want to work my dosage up with TREN E slowly because 200mg last time turned me into an animal. I could not even imagine running 1g of TREN for my 4th cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    OP to get back on track we need lots more info and this cycle needs to be overhauled, Tren and adrol is not by any means a beginner or intermediate cycle"

    Please give us more info as I requested earlier to help you the best.
    Thanks for staying on track!

    OP- Waiting your response so we can help further..

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    I will always keep test lower than tren
    Why? Your week 9 double up on your Test, your going to need to up your dosage at that point if you want to see any further gains from your test.

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