increasing sus

**Firepal** · 10-16-2012, 01:27 PM

Im going to increase my sus from 500 to 750 a week. im on week 5 have had no sides i did 1G of sus the first week and i was seeing gains on the second week. (did 1G cuz im a idiot and followed my buddies advice instead of coming here) so i came here and changed it all around. but I think im gunna raise it to 750. im currrently taking arom EOD at 12.5. and using HCG twice a week at 250. I wanna increase it because my gains have slowed alot its anoying me. I started eating more to make up for it id say 700+ over maintenence. Do you guys think Monday sus 250, deca 200, wednesday sus 250, and friday sus 250 deca 200. would be good timing?

**Phased** · 10-16-2012, 01:45 PM

I would not go over 500mg of sust a week for this cycle.

**t-dogg** · 10-16-2012, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Phased

I would not go over 500mg of sust a week for this cycle.

^^^^

This.

**Firepal** · 10-16-2012, 01:53 PM

any particular reason why? or personal preference?

**Capebuffalo** · 10-16-2012, 01:59 PM

So you want to increase sus and add deca at week 5 of your cycle?
How old are you?
Bad idea stay at 500 mgs per week do not add deca.
What is your pct plab?

**MuscleInk** · 10-16-2012, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

^^^^

This.

Heed the advice of Phased and tdogg. I front loaded sust400 at 2.4g per week. It will shut you down hard at doses above 500mg and push your E2 sky high!

**Firepal** · 10-16-2012, 02:03 PM

No I just want to increase sus. ive already been taking deca at 400 a week 200 at a time with sus. my pct was gunna be..
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25

and i was just gunna take whatever HCG I had left by the time my cycle is over.

**Firepal** · 10-16-2012, 02:09 PM

@muscleink- I was just reading high E2 can cause bad acne? I am curious the risks of increasing it thanks for the information. there is no way to control E2? you frontloaded at 2.4 what did you run it at during the cycle?

**MuscleInk** · 10-16-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Firepal

@muscleink- I was just reading high E2 can cause bad acne? I am curious the risks of increasing it thanks for the information. there is no way to control E2? you frontloaded at 2.4 what did you run it at during the cycle?

Hey Firepal.....
Any manipulation of hormones beyond normal physiological levels will have an impact in one or more biological systems. Changes in prolactin, estrogen, testosterone , DHT, etc can cause problems ranging from acne, hair loss/growth, appetite, sleep, mood, strength, sexual drive etc.

A well planned cycle with proper hormone management can reduce unpleasant side effects or at least make them more tolerable. Increased acne can certainly be caused by elevations in estrogen or testosterone, however I have found the most serious outbreaks to occur (for me personally) correlate with increasing testosterone. Acne vulgaris with androgen/testosterone activation is generally characterized by inflammatory pustules, nodules, and scarring. Managing cystic acne posses a bit of a challenge but there many effective products that can control the spread of acne or reduce the degree of inflammation and redness: benzoyl peroxide, antibiotics, retinoids, antiseborrheic medications, anti-androgen medications, hormonal treatments, salicylic acid, alpha hydroxy acid, azelaic acid, nicotinamide, and keratolytic soaps.

As far as controlling E2, your best approach is using the right AI and dose. There are many risks to elevated estrogen, the least of which is acne. When estrogen elevates as number of changes in blood integrity can occur including: platelets, red blood cell width (RBW), and hemoglobin (oxygen carrying capacity of blood cells). Changes in these parameters increases the risk for thromboembolisms (blood clots), deep vein thrombosis (DVT), and stroke. While it may be tempting to take high doses of aromatase inhibitors to regulate high E2 levels, that can pose problems such as reduced calcium absorption, osteoporosis, depression, arthralgia, hypercholesterolemia, lymphedema, infection, cataracts, diarrhea, insomnia.

After my front load, my sust400 was dropped to 1200mg/wk.

**poppz** · 10-16-2012, 08:34 PM

forgive me for saying so but when i try 500mg.test a week,i really dont feel it too much like 750mg,,,if i would take cialis along with my cycle would that help not to get blood clots??

**anadroljack** · 10-16-2012, 08:42 PM

Go ahead,the difference is not that much.

**MuscleInk** · 10-16-2012, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by poppz

forgive me for saying so but when i try 500mg.test a week,i really dont feel it too much like 750mg,,,if i would take cialis along with my cycle would that help not to get blood clots??

What published data have you read that Cialis breaks up blood clots? Tadalafil relaxes blood vessels and allows the perfusion of blood to increase. That's not the same as destroying a clot. Have you come across data showing it destroys clots?

**stpete** · 10-16-2012, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Firepal

Im going to increase my sus from 500 to 750 a week. im on week 5 have had no sides i did 1G of sus the first week and i was seeing gains on the second week. (did 1G cuz im a idiot and followed my buddies advice instead of coming here) so i came here and changed it all around. but I think im gunna raise it to 750. im currrently taking arom EOD at 12.5. and using HCG twice a week at 250. I wanna increase it because my gains have slowed alot its anoying me. I started eating more to make up for it id say 700+ over maintenence. Do you guys think Monday sus 250, deca 200, wednesday sus 250, and friday sus 250 deca 200. would be good timing?

I don't see anything wrong at all.