Thoughts about my next cycle!!!

[Perfect]

Hi, I will soon begin my second cycle have had little difficulty in deciding what i should go for.
My first cycle was Test Prop 100mg/eod 8 weeks out.

My current stats: Body fat: around 8%, weight: 75kg, height: 1,82cm.
Goals: Gain some lean quality mass, solid gains. around 5-6 kg

Cycle plan: 12 weeks Test Enanthate+Deca+Dianabol.

Week: 1-6: 250mg Test E + 200mg Nandrolone decanoate+ 20mg Dianabol daily.
Week: 6-12:250mg Test E + 200mg Nandrolone decanoate+ 40-50mg Winstrol daily.

What are your thoughts about this cycle?

[Phased]

Swap the winny out for var and run it 50-75mg Ed weeks 6-12.

[MickeyKnox]

I would include HCG on cycle at 250iu 2/wk. Other than swapping out winny for var as Phased has suggested, it looks good.

[Lunk1]

Winny for Var is a personal choice, one I agree with but it's a suggestion not an order. Some prefer winny (mostly due to high cost of VAR)

[Capebuffalo]

Are you sure you only want to run 250 mg of test and 200 mgs of deca a week?

Seem low to shut your system down for IMO

[Capebuffalo]

What is your AI?

[Sworder]

Are you sure you only want to run 250 mg of test and 200 mgs of deca a week?

Seem low to shut your system down for IMO

He is 165ish pounds @ 6' running more than 500mg AAS/week. He should have more than enough!

[Capebuffalo]

He is 165ish pounds @ 6' running more than 500mg AAS/week. He should have more than enough!

Well with those stats he needs the nutrition section working on a diet more than planning on steroids.
That being said 250mg of test total for the week is not worth shutting your system down IMO especially with 200mgs of deca

[Perfect]

My nutrition is 100% i stay lean year round!!!!! There is no problem gaining fat, to gain lean muscle mass ,stay lean year around is something else.
To become like a pig is no problems!!!!!
It all depends on what goals you have, and which body type you have.

I maybe go for 400mg deca+250mg Test+ 20mg dianabol , but are not sure if its necessary....
Better to see how my body reacts, then go for more...

[fit2bOld]

The consensus would be to up the Test not the Deca. Running deca higher than test can lead to ED we dont want a limp willy do we?

400-500 mg test and 200 mg deca is a really good combination for a second cycle.....

[Sworder]

The consensus would be to up the Test not the Deca. Running deca higher than test can lead to ED we dont want a limp willy do we?

400-500 mg test and 200 mg deca is a really good combination for a second cycle.....

Sir I would have to disagree. This individual needs food as Capebuffalo suggested. IF he would do a cycle 500mg Testosterone alone should suffice! Diet > Gear

Edit: Dianabol kick-start wouldn't hurt I like dbol and his results would start coming a lot sooner and provide a nice anabolic transposition after 4 weeks. Note to OP. You have to continue to eat and train like you did on cycle! If you say you can gain fat but not muscle that means you aren't eating enough protein and/or working out like you should. OR which is unlikely you have a long CAG repeat or MAIS

[havanakid]

Sworder is correct.With those stats 500mgs of test weekly would do wonders.If youre really insisting on deca I wouldnt run it at less than 300mgs weekly imo.

[t-dogg]

How does everyone like deca? Alot of water weight? Bloating?

[havanakid]

How does everyone like deca? Alot of water weight? Bloating?

Not too bad brother.On my 6th week so far and a long as you take your a-dex it helps tremendously.From 207lbs to currently 221lbs this morning at the gym.So far so good.Just gotta drink a lot of water and watch the sodium a little but so far no sides with the exception of pushing a whole lot of weight lol.

[t-dogg]

Dose of test/deca? Weeks for cycle?

[fit2bOld]

Sir I would have to disagree. This individual needs food as Capebuffalo suggested. IF he would do a cycle 500mg Testosterone alone should suffice! Diet > Gear

Edit: Dianabol kick-start wouldn't hurt I like dbol and his results would start coming a lot sooner and provide a nice anabolic transposition after 4 weeks. Note to OP. You have to continue to eat and train like you did on cycle! If you say you can gain fat but not muscle that means you aren't eating enough protein and/or working out like you should. OR which is unlikely you have a long CAG repeat or MAIS

The OP after Cape suggested the Test and food came back with upping the Deca.
Personally IMHO the Op is not ready to cycle...

[Sworder]

The OP after Cape suggested the Test and food came back with upping the Deca.
Personally IMHO the Op is not ready to cycle...

Agreed!

[havanakid]

Dose of test/deca? Weeks for cycle?

Im doing test cyp at 500mgs/Deca at 400mgs for 12 weeks.Following this with another 12 weeks of test cyp at 300-400 weekly/Mast at 150eod and anavar at 75mgs daily for the last 6 weeks.IM doing a 6 month blast then back to trt.

[t-dogg]

Im doing test cyp at 500mgs/Deca at 400mgs for 12 weeks.Following this with another 12 weeks of test cyp at 300-400 weekly/Mast at 150eod and anavar at 75mgs daily for the last 6 weeks.IM doing a 6 month blast then back to trt.

You should make a log of this.

[havanakid]

You should make a log of this.

Yeah that would most def help.Worse case I ll write an in depth summary at the end and just open up the thread for questions.Its been a great experience so far.Strength gains in just my second week.Vascularity has increased instead of ballooning up I have filled up but kept my vascularity which Im sure is gonna be ridiculous once the mast and var kick in.People at work already calling me the hulk lol.

[Perfect]

My first cycle was 500mg Test Prop/week, and i will never do test alone, its good for first cycle.
My firend was running, 200mg Deca week+10mg dianabol daily first week, 20mg dianabol daily second week, 30mg daily following weeks!!! Everything went well no problems at all.

[warmouth]

My first cycle was 500mg Test Prop/week, and i will never do test alone, its good for first cycle.
My firend was running, 200mg Deca week+10mg dianabol daily first week, 20mg dianabol daily second week, 30mg daily following weeks!!! Everything went well no problems at all.

Why will you never do test alone? I think it is awesome to use test only. I had my best gains that way. Alot of the vets like running test only for a change. I do believe it to be one of the better choices in any cycle, not just for beginners. My 2 cents anyways. I love testosterone!

[KarsenH]

Swap the winny out for var and run it 50-75mg Ed weeks 6-12.

This ^ - Good luck!

[Perfect]

250mg Test Week+50mg Deca Week +20mg dianabol daily 4weeks+50mg winstrol daily 6weeks out!!!!