looking for advice on a first cycle

[lleathh]

im considering doing a cycle was thinking test for ten weeks just wondering whats the best type to take and dosage? was thinking 400 mg/week. i also was thinking id do low dosage of dbol for the first 4 weeks as a kick start. arimadex .5 every other day for the full ten weeks. then pct nolva and clomid? how much for how long? i heard of some hcg is a good option as well? when in the cycle would hcg be taken and how much? and i was also wondering about taking another oral in the latter part of the ten week test cycle after the dbol probly give myself a few weeks after dbol to start another oral but was thinking maybe winstrol? or anavar? looking for some reccomendations/opinions/advice thanks

[havanakid]

too young to cycle bro sorry.

[shredded]

Age?
Stats?
How long have you been training?

[havanakid]

Age?
Stats?
How long have you been training?

He's 20 years old.We can help him but its gona have to be with diet and training.I gave him perfect advise but had to edit due to his age.Should have looked at it first.

[t-dogg]

Well do you all the dangers of cycling at that age? We can advise you, but you really should know everything bad that can and probally will happen to you.

[MickeyKnox]

im considering doing a cycle was thinking test for ten weeks just wondering whats the best type to take and dosage? was thinking 400 mg/week. i also was thinking id do low dosage of dbol for the first 4 weeks as a kick start. arimadex .5 every other day for the full ten weeks. then pct nolva and clomid? how much for how long? i heard of some hcg is a good option as well? when in the cycle would hcg be taken and how much? and i was also wondering about taking another oral in the latter part of the ten week test cycle after the dbol probly give myself a few weeks after dbol to start another oral but was thinking maybe winstrol? or anavar? looking for some reccomendations/opinions/advice thanks

Welcome to the Forums.

Head over to the 18-25 Forums and you'll can ask some question in there.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...9#.UH9sga7X_fs

[songdog]

too young to cycle bro sorry.

This isnt the kind of response we give around here anymore.Educate op on the dangers of cycling at his age.then if he still insists on cycling.Teach him the correct way.This is how things will be done around here from now on.So if you object to this dont get in these threads.Thank you.

[600@50]

This isnt the kind of response we give around here anymore.Educate op on the dangers of cycling at his age.then if he still insists on cycling.Teach him the correct way.This is how things will be done around here from now on.So if you object to this dont get in these threads.Thank you.

Much better approach in my opinion.

[Matt]

This isnt the kind of response we give around here anymore.Educate op on the dangers of cycling at his age.then if he still insists on cycling.Teach him the correct way.This is how things will be done around here from now on.So if you object to this dont get in these threads.Thank you.

Very well said mate...

I will put this in the 18 to 25 forum...

[Shsm]

Please read this thoroughly

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UIAgYLe9Kc0

Decide if this is really something you want to do. It's highly likely if you decide to cycle now it will jeopardize your future. It isn't worth it. You're going to want a wife and kids some day.

[JohnnyVegas]

im considering doing a cycle was thinking test for ten weeks just wondering whats the best type to take and dosage? was thinking 400 mg/week. i also was thinking id do low dosage of dbol for the first 4 weeks as a kick start. arimadex .5 every other day for the full ten weeks. then pct nolva and clomid? how much for how long? i heard of some hcg is a good option as well? when in the cycle would hcg be taken and how much? and i was also wondering about taking another oral in the latter part of the ten week test cycle after the dbol probly give myself a few weeks after dbol to start another oral but was thinking maybe winstrol? or anavar? looking for some reccomendations/opinions/advice thanks

I highly recommend reading the link mentioned above regarding AAS usage at a young age. There can be lifelong repercussions.

Also keep in mind that you will take this risk for little benefit if your training and diet are not in line.

To answer fill in the holes/questions:

It is recommended to use a long ester at first since many cannot handle daily or EOD injections. So, Test C or E.

I would probably skip the kickstart. See how your body reacts to one compound only so you are dealing with fewer variables if something goes sideways. Your head is going to mess with you when you start injecting, so keep it simple so you have fewer things to adjust.

Many start with .25 Dex EOD when on a low Test dose. Increase if acne flairs, you get a lot of bloat, blood pressure rises or you start crying when dog adoption commercials come on. Lower the dose of you start to get sore joints or body ache.

PCT, yes, yes, yes and have it in hand before you start. There are a lot of reasons to abort a cycle and you want to have your PCT ready to go. Others can give better advice on dosage.

Skip whatever oral you want to take at the end. Keep it simple. This is serious biz.

[havanakid]

This isnt the kind of response we give around here anymore.Educate op on the dangers of cycling at his age.then if he still insists on cycling.Teach him the correct way.This is how things will be done around here from now on.So if you object to this dont get in these threads.Thank you.

Hey easy now!! What happened was that I took my time giving him advise and writing a whole cycle for him and then when I saw his age I got a little frustrated and had to erase and edit the whole thing so thatb is why I wrote what I wrote.I always show respect to people on the forum young or old.I dont want anyone thinking otherwise.

[lleathh]

age is 20 height either 6'0 or 6'1. weight 180. i trained here and there when i was in high school never dieted or really knew how to do a split routine just went and did whatever i felt like. i started changing my eating habits up in the last 4-5 months ago and then a little under 3 months ago i got myself a gym membership again. i weighed 155 at the time. my diet is pretty good id like to think. 6 meals a day 30+ grams protein each meal veges and fruit throughout the day lots of chicken and fish and steak plus 3 whey shakes a day. diet wise im doin alright im still working on improving researching new foods and meals all the time. workout split id like to think is alright too also trying to improve all the time change things up dont really do the same exact routines every time i switch up the order of excersises every time. the split is basically chest back shoulders legs then repeat with a rest day where nessesary. always researching new excersises and routines trying to improve. ive researched alot about everything involved with lifting dont know much about roids tho thats why im on here figured id save some time and get some advice from ppl on here. not saying im definatly gonna go and start shootin up test and poppin dbols tommorow im just trying to learn about this stuff before i go and **** myself up. so i appreciate advice from everyone. wondering what exactly it means to be shut down? is that permanent? whats the difference between juicin before im 25 and after? ill read the link posted about the young and steroids too. again im not set on cycling just considering it looking for advice and info before i go ahead and do it

[songdog]

Hey easy now!! What happened was that I took my time giving him advise and writing a whole cycle for him and then when I saw his age I got a little frustrated and had to erase and edit the whole thing so thatb is why I wrote what I wrote.I always show respect to people on the forum young or old.I dont want anyone thinking otherwise.

Didnt think you were being disrespectable.But we are moving in a new direction here.We will no longer answer cycle questions with your to young.We will advise them of the dangers.Then if they still want to cycle.Teach them the right way.This is our new policy around here.We thank you for your cooperation.

[Matt]

age is 20 height either 6'0 or 6'1. weight 180. i trained here and there when i was in high school never dieted or really knew how to do a split routine just went and did whatever i felt like. i started changing my eating habits up in the last 4-5 months ago and then a little under 3 months ago i got myself a gym membership again. i weighed 155 at the time. my diet is pretty good id like to think. 6 meals a day 30+ grams protein each meal veges and fruit throughout the day lots of chicken and fish and steak plus 3 whey shakes a day. diet wise im doin alright im still working on improving researching new foods and meals all the time. workout split id like to think is alright too also trying to improve all the time change things up dont really do the same exact routines every time i switch up the order of excersises every time. the split is basically chest back shoulders legs then repeat with a rest day where nessesary. always researching new excersises and routines trying to improve. ive researched alot about everything involved with lifting dont know much about roids tho thats why im on here figured id save some time and get some advice from ppl on here. not saying im definatly gonna go and start shootin up test and poppin dbols tommorow im just trying to learn about this stuff before i go and **** myself up. so i appreciate advice from everyone. wondering what exactly it means to be shut down? is that permanent? whats the difference between juicin before im 25 and after? ill read the link posted about the young and steroids too. again im not set on cycling just considering it looking for advice and info before i go ahead and do it

Welcome to the board mate, its great to have you here....

Take your time and read the link, once you've finished please come back and ask as many questions as possible, its important that you understand what the potentials are when cycling with steroids. We are here to help and guid you in the safest way possible.....

[lleathh]

i read the link and i get the extra dangers for under 25 usage. makes sense and as i said im not for sure cycling im considering it at some point so just wanna hear advice on my original post as to that cycle idea and what you guys think no rush for me to start a cycle gonna do my research first before i make my final decision this is part of research getting some real peoples opinions and advice. also was wondering about clen if that also poses more dangers at my age instead of older. i will gladly read all advice posted here and learn from all of you and your own experiences and knowledge all help is greatly appreciated

[JohnnyVegas]

Make sure you catch my post above that answers some of your original questions.

Regarding Clen: some here love it, some hate it. I use it and like it. It isn't a miracle drug, but I think it helps with fat loss. Definitely do some reading. The basics:

Start low, like 40mcg and work your way up until you can't take the sides any more or you hit 120mcg.

Take Keto with it if you want to run Clen longer than two weeks. 2mg at night (because it makes you sleepy).

Take up to 3g of Taurine to combat cramps. I take 1g and seem fine, others recommend 3g.

Drink lots of water.