Cycle Advice

[TwoMoreReps]

Just wondering why i cant post my stats it comes up as SPAM???

lets start with my stats.
age is 24
Been training on-off since i was 16
180lbs and 10% BF

Proposed Cycle :
either Test-e or Sus at 500mg p/week (250mgx2) for 12 Weeks
Pct will be Chlomid 100/50/50/50, Nolva 40/40/20/20
Keeping an AI at hand such as Arimidex in case of any estrogen build up. or May just take it anyway if you advise.

I will listen to what this forum tells me, if you tell me to wait I'll wait. But i would like to ask:
wait how long?
Wait what for?
a Certain age or a certain weight?

How much muscle could i build naturally, I've done some research over the years and found that up to 1LB of muscle a MONTH is attainable naturally which is quite a de-motivator.

My Diet is spot on and is set accordingly to gain 0.5lbs a week, with a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. I eat clean most of the time and have cheat meals around once a week. Currently on a 250 calorie surplus.

I monitor everything from my weight once a week to. measuring foods using scales. Also in the gym i aim to increase weight progressively.

I am not running in to this blind folded, I like to do my research. Love to read and read and read some more.

I dont plan to abuse steroids i am very cautious about my health . e.g don't smoke

My Love life is very important to me what are the chances a starter cycle like this could screw it up? ive read threads where there test levels dont bounce back, is that from abuse or little research and knowledge what starting off?

i naturally have a short temper. Would this get worse on steroids? is the anger controllable?

I don't want a normal average gym-goer body any more, I want a body that stands out, a body i can be proud of. Who wouldn't want an ama*ing body an a faster way of getting it?

So yeah hope ive provided enough information and hope to get some answers.

Thanks everyone to who replies.

[TwoMoreReps]

Sorry, but your POST was denied for the following reasons:

What the hell ?!?!

ive removed every word that could be unacceptable.

[Lunk1]

Sometimes the spam filter just hates on ppl.

Post your issue in this sub forum and they should be able to get you straightened out
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...BOARD-PROBLEMS

[TwoMoreReps]

Proposed Cycle:
either Test-e or Sus at 500mg p/week (250mgx2) for 12 Weeks
Pct will be Chlomid 100/50/50/50, Nolva 40/40/20/20
Keeping an AI at hand such as Arimidex in case of any estrogen build up. or May just take it anyway if you advise.

[TwoMoreReps]

I will listen to what this forum tells me, if you tell me to wait I'll wait. But i would like to ask:
wait how long?
Wait what for?
a Certain age or a certain weight?

How much muscle could i build naturally, I've done some research over the years and found that up to 1LB of muscle a MONTH is attainable naturally which is quite a de-motivator.

My Diet is spot on and is set accordingly to gain 0.5lbs a week, with a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. I eat clean most of the time and have cheat meals around once a week. Currently on a 250 calorie surplus.

I monitor everything from my weight once a week to. measuring foods using scales. Also in the gym i aim to increase weight progressively.

I am not running in to this blind folded, I like to do my research. Love to read and read and read some more.

I dont plan to abuse steroids i am very cautious about my health . e.g don't smoke

My Love life is very important to me what are the chances a starter cycle like this could screw it up? ive read threads where there test levels dont bounce back, is that from abuse or little research and knowledge what starting off?

i naturally have a short temper. Would this get worse on steroids? is the anger controllable?

I don't want a normal average gym-goer body any more, I want a body that stands out, a body i can be proud of. Who wouldn't want an amazing body an a faster way of getting it?

So yeah hope ive provided enough information and hope to get some answers.

Thanks everyone to who replies.

[TwoMoreReps]

For some reason i cant post my stats :/

[Lunk1]

For some reason i cant post my stats :/

Well your profile says 20. Without getting long winded I will say yes that for your health you should wait untill you are 24-25 to give your HPTA the ability to fully mature.

I will ask that this thread be moved to the 18-25 sub forum. Best of luck!

[TwoMoreReps]

Dony know why it does but im 21..


No more replies?

[Lunk1]

Dony know why it does but im 21..


No more replies?

Either way the prefered age is 24-25. I will not be able to offer you cycle advise but I have requested that this thread be moved for you so that you can get sound advise.

[Matt]

Im moving this to the 18 to 25 forum mate where you will receive all the advice you need....

[TwoMoreReps]

Ok thankyou

[Matt]

Ok mate have a little read of this link and give me your thoughts once you've done.....


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UIGwE7TA7_c

[TwoMoreReps]

Nice read..

I think by the time i reach 25 training naturally i wouldnt want to go on steroids as in 4 years i know i would of gained my body that i want.

But 4 years is a long time, anything can happen.

I dont know man, dont no what to do.

I want to go on steroids and achieve the body i dream to have faster.
And i also dont want to go on because of potential sides starting at a young age.

Its a tuff one cos most of my friends are on them. Its just a bummer seeing them gain all this lean mass whilse im a slug gaining 1lbs of muscle a month. Watching the scales move insanely slow.

Hmmmmmm.

[TwoMoreReps]

I can deal with every thing else(gyno, anger, temp libido, acne) except test not bouncing back up and being on TRT, that would be my worst nightmare.

I would go on them happily if that wasnt a possibility. Hmmm

[Matt]

I can deal with every thing else(gyno, anger, temp libido, acne) except test not bouncing back up and being on TRT, that would be my worst nightmare.

I would go on them happily if that wasnt a possibility. Hmmm

Listen give it some serious thought, because not bouncing back is a risk so its a huge decision to make my friend....

Whilst you are giving it some thought why not go to the diet forum and just out of interest post your current diet, there maybe much more room for improvement there, this could help move things along....

Remember this though, whatever you decide we are here to help you where possible and guide you as best we can........

[TwoMoreReps]

Right ive decided to start my cycle this january.


So going to hit the gym even harder until then.

I am either going to go on :

1) Test-E, 250mg p/week for 10 weeks
Or
2) Test-E 500mg p/ week for 12 weeks

Simple and small cycle as a beginner.

What do you guys reccomend

No dbol for kickstart want too see how my body reacts to one steroid at a time .

Anything i can say to doctors to get my current test levels checked out?

[TwoMoreReps]

Nvm waiting til 25... Be back in 4 years

[Lunk1]

Nvm waiting til 25... Be back in 4 years

I really hope this is a true statement and hope that you still stick around and make yourself part of this community!

There is so much info that can be gleened from here about nutrition and exercise that you would be far ahead of those just spinning their wheels.

Can I ask why you changed your mind????

[TwoMoreReps]

I read this post:


"In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life. "

Although i already new this but this really put it in my head, along with people replying they wish they waited and how they are on TRT etc

We'll see where im at in 4 years going to try my hardest to be consistent as if i was consistent since 16-17 wow!

I like this forum very polite, compared to bb.com wow trolls everywhere!!

[Lunk1]

I read this post:


"In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life. "

Although i already new this but this really put it in my head, along with people replying they wish they waited and how they are on TRT etc

We'll see where im at in 4 years going to try my hardest to be consistent as if i was consistent since 16-17 wow!

I like this forum very polite, compared to bb.com wow trolls everywhere!!

Well let me just say that I for one am glad to hear you make such an adult decision. I know it isn't easy to resist temptation but you have shown your maturity by letting your brain win over your greed.

I really hope you stick around and become actively involved. Perhaps you can help other young guys see the risks are not worth the rewards at this stage in life.

Thank you for helping renew my faith in young ppl!!!!

[fit2bOld]

Good call TwoMoreReps. Watch your buddies as they come off cycle and lose the gains, and your now pulling past them naturally.