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    cutting help

    Hi Guys - I think I am on a good cycle. 4 weeks in:

    1-11 test testosterone propionate 75 mg day
    2-9 trenbolone e 50 mg day (may bump to 80 as I'm feeling almost zero sides)
    1-11 masteron propionate 75 mg day
    2-11 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    2-8 caber .5 mg e3d
    3-13 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 200ius EOD

    PCT
    12-15 clomid 25/25/25/25
    12-15 Unleashed/post cycle combo
    12-15 forma stanzol
    12-15 daa powerchews or powder

    My Stats:
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    197
    11% bf

    I have winnie, var, and primo on hand and was curious as to what would be the best one to add at the tail end of the cycle for cutting purposes? My goal here is cutting, no need for bulking up, just wanting to continue to cut. For diet I am going Vegan/Mostly Raw and my exercise program consists of P90x 2 with an additional 3-4 A.M. runs/week.

    Please let me know what you think on adding an additional compound(s) and what dosage/duration you would suggest. To note, I am not big on T3/clen. I also have HGH on hand, but I don't think HGH would benefit for such a short run. Some say it's good for fat loss when run for 6 weeks but hell if I know?!

    Thank You!
    Last edited by colorado75; 10-21-2012 at 10:29 PM.

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    Quite honestly I think this cycle is a little week all the way across the board!

    My run would look like this:

    Test 500 mg EW
    Tren 350 mg EW
    Mast 500 mg EW
    Var 60-80 mg ED 6-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Quite honestly I think this cycle is a little week all the way across the board!

    My run would look like this:

    Test 500 mg EW
    Tren 350 mg EW
    Mast 500 mg EW
    Var 60-80 mg ED 6-11
    Hmmm....what Im currently at from above is:
    Test: 525 mg EW
    Tren: 350 mg EW
    Mast: 525 mg EW
    when you say weak across the board, I am not certain what you mean? or are you just saying you thinks its lacking bc of no Var? Thanks for your feedback...much appreciated!

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    You have test tren mast. I would not add anything else. You will achieve your desired cut if your diet is where it should be.
    You need to add nolva to your pct.
    What ai are you running?

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    Thank you for your feedback. I am running aromasin at 12.5mg EOD. And Nolv to PCT....isnt that discouraged when one has run Tren? I keep hearing/reading conflicting info on Nolv...

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    My bad bro...for some reason I missed the ED and thought you were pinning EOD.

    Nolva with the Clomid is prefered. Honestly if I had to oick one of the 2 it would be Nolva over Clomid, but since t5he effect diff. receptors...do them both

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    What your doing sounds fine, but I wouldn't see any harm in adding in Winstrol or your Anavar at the end if you wanted to. Might give you a little more if you're going for a really, really lean look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    What your doing sounds fine, but I wouldn't see any harm in adding in Winstrol or your Anavar at the end if you wanted to. Might give you a little more if you're going for a really, really lean look.
    what would you suggest for dosage and duration of Var? Also, if I added Var, would you also suggest adding Proviron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado75 View Post
    what would you suggest for dosage and duration of Var? Also, if I added Var, would you also suggest adding Proviron?
    Var @ 100 ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado75 View Post
    what would you suggest for dosage and duration of Var? Also, if I added Var, would you also suggest adding Proviron?
    50-80mg/ed is a normal standard dosing range...I wouldn't mess with it in a cutting cycle below 50mg. 100mg/ed can be fine as austinite said, most people can tolerate Anavar pretty well. Will 100mg/ed make a big difference over 80mg? I doubt it, with the rest of the compounds you have you should be satisfied with the 50-80mg range but I doubt the 100mg mark would hurt anything.

    Proviron, won't hurt but I wouldn't call it necessary and I wouldn't expect it to make a big difference. I'd be surprised if the end result was any different if you added Proviron or left it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    50-80mg/ed is a normal standard dosing range...I wouldn't mess with it in a cutting cycle below 50mg. 100mg/ed can be fine as austinite said, most people can tolerate Anavar pretty well. Will 100mg/ed make a big difference over 80mg? I doubt it, with the rest of the compounds you have you should be satisfied with the 50-80mg range but I doubt the 100mg mark would hurt anything.

    Proviron, won't hurt but I wouldn't call it necessary and I wouldn't expect it to make a big difference. I'd be surprised if the end result was any different if you added Proviron or left it out.
    Thanks Metal - what duration would you suggest? Is 6 weeks too long? If not then I would run weeks 6-11 - total cycle is 11 weeks. Thoughts?

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