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    Silvea4tw is offline New Member
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    Next Cycle need a little bit of help

    This is my 4th cycle. Even being at that I don't consider myself to be very knowledgeable and always looking for more help. Currently I am 6'3 and 240lb. No idea about my body fat. I'm not fat but def not rocking a 6 pack.

    Here is a break down of my current cycle

    Week 1-4 1.25ml Andropen 275 2X a week
    Week 1-6 50mg Dbol ED
    Week 2-7 3-8 4-9? Tren A 100 2X a week
    Week 4-12 Test E 300 2X a week

    The real question that comes in is does this look acceptable, and the Tren A is the main concern. I ordered 10ml of Tren E and got Tren A instead. If I run it for 5 weeks would that be beneficial to my cycle or do I need to grab another bottle and run it for 10 weeks? I would prefer to only do 5 weeks seeing as I have already dropped a load of cash but if I need another bottle I will buy one. I figure with a short life like Tren A has I can get good benefits out of it if I match it up with when the Test kicks in hard. I have also heard that running your test a little longer than tren can help minimize PCT issues. Oh and the reason for starting with Andropen 275 basically boils down to I had a bottle left over from my last cycle and I like the idea of the short esters helping kick start my cycle and when the longer esters start to kick in switching it to a single long ester test for max benefit.

    All help would be usefull I just dont want to hear negative things

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    You have the dbol to kickstart it(im assuming) w/ test, IF you do use tren , i wouldnt run it as long as the test, you have the right idea to use it for 5 weeks. I'm sure you'll have great results with this.

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    Silvea4tw is offline New Member
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    Yeah I figure the Dbol + short esters in the Andropen will help me hit the ground running.

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    5 weeks of tren a will not have the effects that say 10 weeks would have. You would do yourself a service to pick up another bottle IMO. Not familiar with the andropen , I'm gonna have to go read about that...

    Any plan to frontload the test?

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    When was your last cycle? When did pct end? 4 cycles at 22?
    Tren a is eod or ed not 2 x a week. You need to rethink this cycle IMO.

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    Andropen is BD's version of Sust. So its a test blend with long and short esters. So those short esters with Dbol is my frontload

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    Quote Originally Posted by PillarofBalance View Post
    5 weeks of tren a will not have the effects that say 10 weeks would have. You would do yourself a service to pick up another bottle IMO. Not familiar with the andropen , I'm gonna have to go read about that...

    Any plan to frontload the test?
    Have you got experience with tren? I wouldnt run it that long. I have and will never again.

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    My last cycle was 6 months ago so im way past PCT and im 24. I heard I could do tren A every 3 days. This is my first Tren cycle so thats one reason why im ok with only doing 5 weeks. What recommendations would you suggest cape?

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    I would drop the andropen and use prop week 1-4 if you have to front load.
    Tren a Ed in my opinion for me less sides but eod at minimum week 2-10
    Run test e 1-12
    Drop the d Bol
    You need an ai
    Hcg is very beneficial
    And a strong pct 15 days after last injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I would drop the andropen and use prop week 1-4 if you have to front load.
    Tren a Ed in my opinion for me less sides but eod at minimum week 2-10
    Run test e 1-12
    Drop the d Bol
    You need an ai
    Hcg is very beneficial
    And a strong pct 15 days after last injection
    Nicey done Cape!

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    I see well I dont have access to Prop and Andro has prop and phen in it ( which i guess are very close to the same) so it is what im going to have to go with. Any reason why you say cancel out the dbol ? and I talked to my guy I should be able to grab another bottle of Tren A and will do eod.

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    D Bol Ed 4 weeks
    Run test e 250 mg 2 x a week 12 weeks
    Run tren a 75 mg eod I would only run 8 weeks. My experience
    Armidex .25 eod adjust accordingly week 1-12
    Hcg 250 iu 2 x a week week 1-12
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Novla 40/20/20/20

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