Using ONLY Delt Injections for an EOD Pinning Cycle

**Anabolick** · 10-23-2012, 02:32 PM

I'm not currently on a cycle that requires EOD injections but I'm curious...

I really find the delts to be the most convenient location and am wondering if this following pinning schedule would work.

Monday - Right Front Delt Pin
Wednesday- Left Front Delt pin
Friday- Right Side Delt Pin
Sunday-Left Side Delt Pin
Tuesday - right rear delt pin
Thursday - left rear delt pin
(eod)

as you can see, im just rotating around the shoulders. I'm wondering if this is okay? Thanks.

**t-dogg** · 10-23-2012, 02:41 PM

I wouldnt do that. Why cant you just rotate delts, glutes, ect?

**Anabolick** · 10-23-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

I wouldnt do that. Why cant you just rotate delts, glutes, ect?

why wouldnt you do that? I need some good reasons lol.

and I just love pinning delts.

**snowman** · 10-23-2012, 02:51 PM

I find delts are easy for me too, and i do that a lot....sometimes and only sometimes, i do glutes, and legs... i love pinning delts too.
Once i did my calve, and could not walk for a week, also did my chest did not like it... traps were o.k with water based steroid

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-23-2012, 03:02 PM

The more you pin the more likely you are to develop scar tissue. I would rotate as many spots as possible.

**rmbX66t1** · 10-23-2012, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

The more you pin the more likely you are to develop scar tissue. I would rotate as many spots as possible.

This. There are so many injection sites that a problem-free. Hell, the glute alone has several different areas you can rotate between, then you've got quads, with multiple rotations, delts, traps, lats, and pecs.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-23-2012, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

The more you pin the more likely you are to develop scar tissue. I would rotate as many spots as possible.

this^^^^ once you get scar tissue built up it makes injecting quite difficult...

**measuretwicecutonce** · 10-23-2012, 03:22 PM

and more likelihood of getting an infection. the rule of thumb is 7 days between injecting the same muscle.

**joegunner** · 10-23-2012, 03:22 PM

Got too push through the scar im guessing.. thats almost cringe worthy

**Gaspari1255** · 10-23-2012, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

this^^^^ once you get scar tissue built up it makes injecting quite difficult...

Yes, I learned the hard way. When I try to pin my delts, its like trying to poke through a piece of leather. No fun.

**christian123** · 10-23-2012, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bronzer

Yes, I learned the hard way. When I try to pin my delts, its like trying to poke through a piece of leather. No fun.

Yep same thing here with legs:/ now im doing
Quads/delts

**joegunner** · 10-23-2012, 03:43 PM

How long can it take to accumulate the scar tissue from injections? Like a few pins?

**MuscleInk** · 10-23-2012, 04:04 PM

Scar tissue typically starts to manifest about 4 wks BUT this varies with each person and on the degree of trauma.

Rule of thumb is MINIMUM 7 days between injection sites. 14 is ideal.

Pushing through scar/fibrous tissue is difficult, somewhat painful and injecting into the area is difficult and damn near impossible.

If the vets tell you to rotate between areas, ROTATE!!!!

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-23-2012, 04:05 PM

I also use 25g in the hopes that less trauma will cause less scar tissue. This is important to me since my TRT alone is 104 injections a year.

**mwilkinson** · 10-23-2012, 04:45 PM

isn't there such thing as "over saturation" where the receptors get tired? i've read a few different threads about this. any more people read/know about this or is it "bro science"?

**fit2bOld** · 10-23-2012, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

I also use 25g in the hopes that less trauma will cause less scar tissue. This is important to me since my TRT alone is 104 injections a year.

Add in a blast and your poking the hell out of yourself. I also do biceps, triceps

**joegunner** · 10-23-2012, 06:40 PM

Where is the safest spot? glutes, delts? Would of thought Triceps would be good however could cork it real badly.
Are certain aas known to cork more?

**MuscleInk** · 10-23-2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by mwilkinson

isn't there such thing as "over saturation" where the receptors get tired? i've read a few different threads about this. any more people read/know about this or is it "bro science"?

You mean like receptor burn out? No, that's nonsense.

**--->>405<<---** · 10-23-2012, 06:47 PM

ive seen some guys are pinning cycle doses sub q.. anyone of yall done this? i think it takes a few more pins due to volume per injection site. can it be just as effective?? anyone got some experienced input on this?

**MuscleInk** · 10-23-2012, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by joegunner

Where is the safest spot? glutes, delts? Would of thought Triceps would be good however could cork it real badly.
Are certain aas known to cork more?

What do you mean by "safe"? Smaller muscles tend to be harder to pin and react more adversely to injected compounds. Quads are larger but more vascular with greater nerve density.

**Anabolick** · 10-23-2012, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Scar tissue typically starts to manifest about 4 wks BUT this varies with each person and on the degree of trauma.

Rule of thumb is MINIMUM 7 days between injection sites. 14 is ideal.

Pushing through scar/fibrous tissue is difficult, somewhat painful and injecting into the area is difficult and damn near impossible.

If the vets tell you to rotate between areas, ROTATE!!!!

There is a 10 day rest between each injection spot.

Nobody seems to have understood my question....The front delt, side delt, and rear delt may be part of the shoulder but those are 3 viable injection points (1 for each head, aka doing front delt then side delt the next day is not pinning the same spot)...

Can anyone argue that?

**Gaspari1255** · 10-23-2012, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Anabolick

There is a 10 day rest between each injection spot.

Nobody seems to have understood my question....The front delt, side delt, and rear delt may be part of the shoulder but those are 3 viable injection points (1 for each head, aka doing front delt then side delt the next day is not pinning the same spot)...

Can anyone argue that?

Do you realize how difficult the rear delt is to hit properly?

**ghettoboyd** · 10-24-2012, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Anabolick

There is a 10 day rest between each injection spot.

Nobody seems to have understood my question....The front delt, side delt, and rear delt may be part of the shoulder but those are 3 viable injection points (1 for each head, aka doing front delt then side delt the next day is not pinning the same spot)...

Can anyone argue that?

yes bro you can do it but there will eventually be scar tissue buildup...it gets hard eventualy to find a place to pin where you can actually push the pin through, then theres getting the compound out of it into the muscle/scar tissue(this can be near impossible sometimes)...we got the question man and you got your answer...i know it wasnt the "high five" you where looking for but it is what it is...

**--->>405<<---** · 10-24-2012, 06:16 AM

I guess none of yall do subq injects on cycle??????? From what i can tell it seems like a viable option???

**austinite** · 10-24-2012, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

I guess none of yall do subq injects on cycle??????? From what i can tell it seems like a viable option???

just switched last monday

**fit2bOld** · 10-24-2012, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

I guess none of yall do subq injects on cycle??????? From what i can tell it seems like a viable option???

Some of the guys in the HRT go subQ, slower absorption and less rise in E2.

**--->>405<<---** · 10-24-2012, 06:23 AM

Im doing TRT dose subq Nd its freakn greaT man! Way better than IM!

**Far from massive** · 10-24-2012, 06:28 AM

Glutes Delts and Thighs are considered the safest spots for intramuscular injection, this is why they are the go to spots in medicine.

**snowblowjoe** · 10-24-2012, 06:28 AM

Does sub q hurt like a bitch

**--->>405<<---** · 10-24-2012, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Does sub q hurt like a bitch

shoot no man! thats one of the benefits.. i tell u what hurts like a bitch though, hitting a freaking nerve in the quad! something i did a lot of and eventually had to let my wife inject me in the delts cuz i developed like a mental block and couldnt inject myself without expecting to hit the dang nerve..

finally i forced myself to do quads again out of pure principle but now that im doing sub q i see no reason to ever go back.

other than the advantage of being able to inject a bit more volume per site can someone explain to me any other benefit of injecting IM??

**mockery** · 10-24-2012, 07:55 AM

im serious confused by this, as sub q shots still get absorbed over time, yes. but the risk of an infection and pain and gear crashing is huge. maybe with the pharma grade trt stuff it doesn't crash. but Ive learned 2 times now that if i don't go deep enough and hit the muscle im gonna be in a world of hurt, a lump among other things for 7 days....

b-12 injections sure. but a protocol that requires IM administration such as steroids is something different in my eye. And possibly foolish.

also the idea of slow absorbing , especially on TRT is not good! u may as well be running a slower acting ester or cream. You hormones would be less stable doing these sub q shots. heck i still shoot ethanate EOD to keep blood levels consistent.

**--->>405<<---** · 10-24-2012, 08:06 AM

well mock im gonna have to disagree with u for TRT sub q being "not good". i dont know about on cycle which is why i askd the question. one of the leading TRT docs (john Crisler) in the US for recommends sub q injects.

it is less painful, doesnt cause muscle damage (scarring), and it is better for keeping E2 in check.

what u said about UGL AAS may have some merit but as for TRT all the evidence ive seen points in the opposite direction of ur take on the matter

**marcus300** · 10-24-2012, 08:19 AM

Just rotate your injection sites as much as possible to reduce scar tissue build up, your delts would be in bit if you hit the different heads so many times, also no need for it when you have many other areas to inject

**OnTheSauce** · 10-24-2012, 09:14 AM

I don't think 3cc sub q would be a good idea. So ill stick with IM

**Anabolick** · 10-24-2012, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Just rotate your injection sites as much as possible to reduce scar tissue build up, your delts would be in bit if you hit the different heads so many times, also no need for it when you have many other areas to inject

My thinking was most people here have 4-6 injection spots and they're not getting critiqued about it. This is 6 different injection spots so it sounds perfectly fine to me....But yes, I get all your guy's point, include as many injection spots as possible. Going to be fun pinning lats and traps.

oh and could someone inform me about sub q?