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    gmac is offline New Member
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    Looking for some help and advice.

    I have been on this forum for a long time now and have read many posts on here and in steroid /bodybuilding books too, but I still haven't taken the plunge to use steroids yet, even after 1+ years of considering starting them.

    I have many questions and I would like to discuss a few things.

    What would you suggest is a good steroid to start with? I have been considering Dianabol because I have heard that this can be taken orally and is one of the 'safest' out there. It seems to be one of the most common steroids and will be easier to obtain also.

    I live in the UK, so the laws here seems to be more lenient than some other areas of the world.

    I go to the gym everyday and do 1 day of cardio (mostly running) and the next day some weightlifting. I would like this program to continue because I really enjoy running (distance running). But I would also like to increase the size of my upper body; arms, shoulders, chest.

    Would you suggest only using 1 steroid or stacking them if this will be my first time using them?

    I am looking to gain physical size. I am not too fussed about body definition.

    I am a 28 year old male, weigh 12 stone 2lbs (170lbs) and I am 5ft 8".

    Furthermore, how often should I take these steroids and at what dosage to see results?

    I look forward to hearing from any of you who can help me with my inquiries before I end up jumping into this and do something stupid that I will no doubt regret.

    Thank you.

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    with these questions, i would say you obviously HAVENT done your research

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    gmac is offline New Member
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    What do you need to know and I will try and clear whatever up?

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    MickeyKnox is offline Banned
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    Welcome gmac.

    I recommend one steroid to begin so you may determine how exogenous testosterone affects you. Then later on you can include orals if you wish.

    Standard beginners cycle looks something like this. You cant tweak from here:

    wk 1-12 500mg test e 2/wk @ 250mg every 3.5 days.
    wk 1-12 aromisin 12.5mg eod and monitor
    wk 3-14.5 hCG 250iu 2/wk the day before test injection

    wk 15-19 pct
    clomid 75/50/50/50
    nolva 40/40/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Then later on you can include orals if you wish.
    So, it is a bad idea to start with orals? I would prefer to start with orals if possible.

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    Yes, its a bad idea.

    Orals are not recommend for first cycle for the reasons i just pointed out. Oral ONLY is very worse.

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    Also; this might sound like a stupid question; but what if something should happen and that I have some sort of reaction to the steroid , should I just stop taking them - what are the consequences of not completing a cycle?

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    If you have a bad reaction, (allergic, ect) you can stop cycle and start pct according to ester length and see a health professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmac View Post
    So, it is a bad idea to start with orals? I would prefer to start with orals if possible.
    You said you have been here a long time, and we deal with this daily. Would you prefer orals only because you are afraid of needles? If so, AAS are not in the cards for you right now. I would take your time, research, and focus on dialing in your diet while you study. If you cant handle needles, you can handle AAS. Good luck in your decision.

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    We all prefer oral starting out but eventually you have to stick it in! (Oh...are you talking about AAS?) My bad, carry on!

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    I agree with Micky and his cycle.But you do need to do some research.educate before you medicate.

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