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    cycle recomendation based on what i can access

    Equipoise 250,
    test prop 100,
    sustanon 250,
    deca 200

    this is what my supplier can offer me, all charged at the same price per ml .

    so was wondering if i could get some opinions on what would give the best results, im leaning toward sustanon personally but would love to get previous users feedback on any or all of the above.

    im still trying to get PCT sorted so wont be rushing into this until everything is sourced.

    thanks for reading

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    Although I would prefer to use test E with deca , I guess sust would have to suffice.

    I wouldn't consider the EQ.

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    What are your stats and cycle experience???

    and goals....

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    And I want to see the op's and Austinites AVI's naked oil wrestle...NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Sust and deca would be my choices. Ive never heard or seen anything good on EQ.


    BF%? Cycles ran before?



    AND most of all, I 100% agree with lunk. I want to see a avatar fight asap!

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    sust and deca

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    I agree with that one.Sus deca

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    3 rd it.( recommendations )

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    I'm 40 lifting for 3 years and just want to fill out, not wanting massive gains . Just to look good in clothes and when I'm naked! Currently weigh 85 kilos at 5 foot 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    I'm 40 lifting for 3 years and just want to fill out, not wanting massive gains . Just to look good in clothes and when I'm naked! Currently weigh 85 kilos at 5 foot 11
    What is your previous cycle experience???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    And I want to see the op's and Austinites AVI's naked oil wrestle...NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Seconded

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    i dont have any cycle experience at all, this is my first attempt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    i dont have any cycle experience at all, this is my first attempt
    Then Sust only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Then Sust only.
    Thats where I was headed as well...1st cycle just give that Sus a fair chance and make sure the diet is locked tight!

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    cool so this is my aim. let me know if it looks good.

    wk1- wk 3 SUS 250mg (1 ML) a week
    wk4-12 SUS 500mg (2ml a week) (Total by end of cycle 20ml-1 vial)

    Gyno control- (im prone) when needed aromasin 12.5 eod when nipple sensitivity is experienced only (wk1-wk12)

    PCT aromasin 25 mg a day for 4 weeks ----25/25/25/25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    cool so this is my aim. let me know if it looks good.

    wk1- wk 3 SUS 250mg (1 ML) a week
    wk4-12 SUS 500mg (2ml a week) (Total by end of cycle 20ml-1 vial)

    Gyno control- (im prone) when needed aromasin 12.5 eod when nipple sensitivity is experienced only (wk1-wk12)

    PCT aromasin 25 mg a day for 4 weeks ----25/25/25/25

    How do you know you're gyno prone??

    No need to change dosing.

    Just start and finish with 500 per week for 12 weeks.

    I prefer adex as it works instantly vs. Aromasin which takes a week or so to get serum levels up. Easier to manage with Adex. Dose @ 0.25 EOD from 1st to last injection.)

    Your PCT will not suffice. You will need Clomid and Nolva. clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20. (This needs to start 14 days after your last injection.

    Get HCG so you can recover faster and prevent testicular atrophy. Dose @ 250iu twice weekly.

    Good luck.

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    How do you know you're gyno prone??

    Im 40 so developed a little chest fat- but the rest of me is lean so id rather not leave the gyno to chance if i can help it.

    No need to change dosing.

    Just start and finish with 500 per week for 12 weeks.

    I wanted to taper up to 500 EW after wk 3 with 250EW on wk1-3 so that i would only need to buy 1 x20ml vial otherwise i would waste alot of gear ( buy 40ml only use 24ml) based on whats available and i heard gains can come from as little as 100mg of sus ...is that still ok? or am i off track on that.

    I prefer adex as it works instantly vs. Aromasin which takes a week or so to get serum levels up. Easier to manage with Adex. Dose @ 0.25 EOD from 1st to last injection.)

    Your PCT will not suffice. You will need Clomid and Nolva. clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20. (This needs to start 14 days after your last injection.

    i heard aromasin is better than these two- swifto swears by it and makes mention of aromasin being 3rd generation over the others ( 2nd generation) breast cancer patients go onto aromasin when nolvadex or clomid fails so im not sure why nolvadex over aromasin...http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=aromasin

    Get HCG so you can recover faster and prevent testicular atrophy. Dose @ 250iu twice weekly.

    Yes i need to source that as well- should i dose from WK1-Wk12?

    Good luck
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    Fat is not gyno. It's fat. This goes away the leaner you become.

    Tapering is very old school. You should consider getting more gear if you don't have enough. No need for ups and downs with blood levels.

    Nothing wrong with aromasin . Matter of preference.

    Yes, I would run HCG from day 1 to last injection day.

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    !st cycle test only bro with a ai and HCG .Ausinite is on point with this.

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    Thanks for the feedback guys I really Appreciate all your responses and I'll use your advice putting my cycle together

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    Upon reading your first post, I would say Test P. Now I know many will not agree, but I used it for my first attempt, and I absolutely loved it! I wouldnt recommend it to a younger person for the first try, but you seem like you can handle the frequent pinnings. Really, its is not too many more than you should pin while using sustenon. I would do sustenon E3D while you can do propionate EOD. I like having a single ester myself, and I have a soft spot for Test P. BTW, I saved you to my contacts months ago because of your AVI. Who is that? I have seen in before.

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    thanks warmouth i have no idea who the girl is apparently shes a short course cyclist- hence the big legs and no muscle upper body- i just used her because she was in pink underwear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Fat is not gyno. It's fat. This goes away the leaner you become.

    Tapering is very old school. You should consider getting more gear if you don't have enough. No need for ups and downs with blood levels.

    Nothing wrong with aromasin . Matter of preference.

    Yes, I would run HCG from day 1 to last injection day.
    do as he says ^^^^^ you do not want up and down blood levels this is very bad do 500mg a week of sus 2 pins 250mg mon and 250mgs thu

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    i think that girl may be Jamie Eason maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank13
    i think that girl may be Jamie Eason maybe
    Would need to see her face. This is Jamie:



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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    Would need to see her face. This is Jamie:

    <img src="http://forums.steroid .com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128526"/>

    <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128527"/>
    Holy balls...I'd drink her bath water just to take a peek at what's under there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Holy balls...I'd drink her bath water just to take a peek at what's under there
    me to i really think thats her tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank13 View Post
    i think that girl may be Jamie Eason maybe
    It is no Jamie Eason! Thats blasphemy Turkey Bacon! She is unreal hot though. I showed my dad and he though it was gross. Ha! I love those quads.

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    looks like ive been scammed! did an image search and either she does or doesnt have huge quads---im shattered......which one is real?
    Last edited by Simon1972; 10-31-2012 at 05:21 PM.

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    I'm not sure anyone would photoshop a pic to make a girls legs look worse. So I'm going to have to go with the first picture as the real one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    It is no Jamie Eason! Thats blasphemy Turkey Bacon! She is unreal hot though. I showed my dad and he though it was gross. Ha! I love those quads.
    sorry your right i dont know why i was thinking that

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredMN View Post
    I'm not sure anyone would photoshop a pic to make a girls legs look worse. So I'm going to have to go with the first picture as the real one.
    yeah but why would a girl drop her pants to show off some normal- nothing special legs? makes me think the first one is photoshoped

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