Deca question

**Jonnyg419** · 10-25-2012, 01:21 PM

I am trying to put together my next cycle and I am planning on starting it on the last week of December. I am 27 years old, 181lbs, 5'10. I would like to run 500mg a week of test enth (might end up using sust though). and 400mg of Deca . also my connect can get var, and I was thinking about using it for the last 5 weeks to keep a leaner appearance. I will be running adex at .25 ed, and HCG starting week 4 up until PCT. I will of course keep Nolvadex on hand.
Now on to my question, I am very concerned with what I have read about "Deca Dick" and I want to know if that is only really a problem for people who don't use test as a base or does it have the potential to happen anyway? Also is the adex a strong enough ai for the above cycle? I just want to have an idea what to expect from it because I don't want to have a limp noodle for 12 weeks haha. Any info or anecdotes on the subjuct would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance!

**jimmyinkedup** · 10-25-2012, 01:30 PM

Looks like a very nice cycle set up to me.
If you manage your estrogen properly (which you are) you should have no problems. If you do have issues a little prami will do you just fine' but I find it highly unlikely and probably unnecessary. I would normally say keep it on hand but if u needed it you can get it from arr in like 3 days.

**Jonnyg419** · 10-25-2012, 01:53 PM

Thanks man

**mmgearworks** · 10-25-2012, 02:10 PM

Nice cycle. Would have my Test at a slightly higher ratio to my Deca but yours is ok... Deca dick always a possibility but the extent of yours if it does come about shouldn't be severe especially with a higher test ratio! What weeks you proposing to run the Var in context to your cycle? Like week 8-12 or what? And also what week you plan PCT start?

**Jonnyg419** · 10-25-2012, 03:38 PM

Yeah I wad planning on 8-12 on the var. And the exact day I would start pct would depend on what kind of test I get, but I'd say roughly 2 weeks after my last pin I would run nolva 40/40/40/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50. I am just very concerned with deca dick bc I just finished pct for a test cucle I did and my libido is currently non existent. My girl is very upset about it and I will feel bad putting her througj it for an even longer time on my next cycle

**Jonnyg419** · 10-25-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by mmgearworks

Nice cycle. Would have my Test at a slightly higher ratio to my Deca but yours is ok... Deca dick always a possibility but the extent of yours if it does come about shouldn't be severe especially with a higher test ratio! What weeks you proposing to run the Var in context to your cycle? Like week 8-12 or what? And also what week you plan PCT start?

what ratio would you recommend?

**mmgearworks** · 10-25-2012, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jonnyg419

Yeah I wad planning on 8-12 on the var. And the exact day I would start pct would depend on what kind of test I get, but I'd say roughly 2 weeks after my last pin I would run nolva 40/40/40/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50. I am just very concerned with deca dick bc I just finished pct for a test cucle I did and my libido is currently non existent. My girl is very upset about it and I will feel bad putting her througj it for an even longer time on my next cycle

The HPTA recovery after your last cycle is a concern and 1st thing you need to get onto! Bloods are essential with this stuff otherwise you shooting in the dark. You need a scientific base of your body to know what it needs, if your all in order and to be able to diagnose what's wrong. Sort that out might need to do another PCT if you want to see your natural levels stable on paper. It's always best. Some will say jump on cycle as the gear will shoot around levels in any case. Your choice.

With regards to the cycle, Run the Var into the PCT window so:

Test + Deca week 1-12 as stated.
Var week 10-14. (Even stretch it a week to week 15 because of the decanoate ester and longer required PCT window)

Then PCT week 16 onwards! HCG would be used in the window weeks 13-15 if I was designing this course.

**mmgearworks** · 10-25-2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Jonnyg419

what ratio would you recommend?

DOUBLE! 2:1 test

eca ratio! Ha ha but iam crazy and stuck in my ways so I call 3:2 safe zone for clients to prevent the Deca dick and keep libido firing to an extent. Everyone is different and you could get shut down even at 2:1. Lessens the chance though.

**jimmyinkedup** · 10-25-2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by mmgearworks

DOUBLE! 2:1 test

eca ratio! Ha ha but iam crazy and stuck in my ways so I call 3:2 safe zone for clients to prevent the Deca dick and keep libido firing to an extent. Everyone is different and you could get shut down even at 2:1. Lessens the chance though.

???????
he will be shut down no matter what the ratio of test to deca is.

**mmgearworks** · 10-25-2012, 03:51 PM

And iam using the words "shut down" too loosely... Your HPTA will be shut down negligent on cycle (some run HCG as a preventative measure on cycle and some wait for PCT for regeneration) iam referring to your libido shut down in my above posts. Higher test to Deca ratio will reduce the chance of a shut down libido not HPTA.

**mmgearworks** · 10-25-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

???????
he will be shut down no matter what the ratio of test to deca is.

You posted as I was posting bro

I got you ha ha

**10nispro** · 10-25-2012, 03:54 PM

What was your pct after first cycle? How long have you been off the first cycle?

**Jonnyg419** · 10-25-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by 10nispro

What was your pct after first cycle? How long have you been off the first cycle?

My last pin was Sept 3rd of Test E, I started PCT on Sept 17th, and ran Nolva 40/40/40/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50. My last pin was now 7 weeks and 2 days ago... hasn't really been too long when you take into account the 2 weeks for the ester to clear and 4 weeks of PCT.

**Jonnyg419** · 10-25-2012, 09:20 PM

Oh yeah and stop me if this is too much info, but I can successfully jack it, even though the desire isn't the same, but I'm pushing rope with my girlfriend haha

**warmouth** · 10-25-2012, 09:58 PM

Hey Jonny. I would recommend that you get BW done before hopping back on this quick. If you havent fully recovered from the last cycle, this might be a bit too quick. You really need to see where you stand with BW, then consider running your cycle. YOu really need to give yourself time to recover, plus gains might even be better. It is your body and your call, but Id hate to see you possible damage yourself due to wanting to get back "on" so quick. Good luck!

**Jonnyg419** · 10-26-2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Hey Jonny. I would recommend that you get BW done before hopping back on this quick. If you havent fully recovered from the last cycle, this might be a bit too quick. You really need to see where you stand with BW, then consider running your cycle. YOu really need to give yourself time to recover, plus gains might even be better. It is your body and your call, but Id hate to see you possible damage yourself due to wanting to get back "on" so quick. Good luck!

Very good point, I agree with you I would rather play it safe, is there a place to get a bloodwork test online or does it have to be through a doc?