Clen/T3 and 2nd cycle

[stevet68]

Stats: 43 y/o, 6'1", 225lb, 13-14% b/f

Currently on week 7 of cycle#1:

Test E 250x2/week - weeks 1-12
D-Bol 40/day - weeks 1-5
Arim .25 EOD - weeks 4-12

Standard PCT planned Nolva/Clomid

I have been amazed at the results so far, gained about 15lbs of lean muscle and actually lost some b/f, definition has improved greatly, weights have gradually increased and my libido is through the roof (feel like a teenager again) No side affects except for some back pumps while on the D-bol (not a huge fan of the D-Bol)

I would like to start Clen and T3 immediately following this cycle to shed a few lbs of fat, I have read that Clen and T3 can be used right after a cycle and during PCT, correct?

I was planning on starting the Clen at 20mcg/day and increasing as tolerance allows, running 2 week on, 2 weeks off.

I am also planning to run T3 for 6 weeks, starting at 50mcg, gradually increasing to 125cg, then slowly decreasing down to 25mcg.

Please let me know if I have missed anything on the above.

Thanks in advance for any input

[Lunk1]

Personaly not a fan of either. Clen just makes me jittery and raises my BP. I do not like T3 or any other chem that could likely cause damage to my thyroid..considering everything the thyroid is responsible for

[Nakanoshima]

I'm interested to see how you go with clen right after cycle. I posted the same question a while back but did not get a response.

I did not do the clen, have been eating at maintenance and am about to cut.

It is my understanding that clen needs to be run with a caloric deficit. If so, doing this right after cycle may not be the best idea.

[stevet68]

I'm interested to see how you go with clen right after cycle. I posted the same question a while back but did not get a response.

I did not do the clen, have been eating at maintenance and am about to cut.

It is my understanding that clen needs to be run with a caloric deficit. If so, doing this right after cycle may not be the best idea.

That is a great question, not sure of the answer?

[Sworder]

In PCT your testosterone is going to be low leading to a catabolic state. Inducing further catabolism with T3/clen is not a wise idea, catabolic is breaking something down. This includes bodyfat and muscle. The less androgens you have circulating, the more muscle will get broken down.

[Nakanoshima]

In PCT your testosterone is going to be low leading to a catabolic state. Inducing further catabolism with T3/clen is not a wise idea, catabolic is breaking something down. This includes bodyfat and muscle. The less androgens you have circulating, the more muscle will get broken down.

However clen is touted as having anti-catabolic properties, which is why myself and OP may have thought it was ok to do it right after cycle.

[Sworder]

Clen has been shown to have anabolic properties sure. But put clen in a catabolic environment with minimal amounts of androgens and t3, you can kiss your gains good-bye.

[christian123]

Clen has been shown to have anabolic properties sure. But put clen in a catabolic environment with minimal amounts of androgens and t3, you can kiss your gains good-bye.

This, trustme t3 will eat you alive in a couple weeks you lose l ur gains, ive seen it happen

[evander87]

However clen is touted as having anti-catabolic properties, which is why myself and OP may have thought it was ok to do it right after cycle.

In large doses in cows.

I ran clen at a caloric maintenance level after my 2nd cycle and lost everything. Never done T3 but my understanding is that you better be "on" or it will chew up your muscle.

I'm finishing a cut cycle of test e 500/week and clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with a caloric deficit of 800 calories and the fat has been dropping off.

[stevet68]

So I should just do my normal PCT and plan to add Clen to my 2nd cycle with Test-E?

I am loving the gains made so far and do not want to jeopodize them at all.

[evander87]

Short answer, yes