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    Revised first cycle

    Stats at the moment

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    13% body fat
    2 years lifting with clean diet 40/40/20, started at 5'10 150 10% body fat

    I'm not running this cycle until I'm older, but I would love your opinions on it.

    1-12: Test e - 500mg EW, pinned Monday in the AM, Thursday in the PM
    1-12: Aromasin - 12.5 mg ED in the morning with food, bump if necessary
    1-12: HCG (is it necessary for a simple test cycle?) - 250iu 2x EW
    13-14: Off
    15-16: Torem 120 mg ED
    15-16: Nolvadex : 40 mg ED
    17-19 or 20: Torem 60 mg ED
    17-19 or 20: Nolvadex 20 mg ED

    Thanks!

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    At 19 you should not be cycling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm View Post
    Stats at the moment

    19
    5'10
    177 pounds
    13% body fat
    2 years lifting with clean diet 40/40/20, started at 5'10 150 10% body fat

    I'm not running this cycle until I'm older, but I would love your opinions on it.

    1-12: Test e - 500mg EW, pinned Monday in the AM, Thursday in the PM
    1-12: Aromasin - 12.5 mg ED in the morning with food, bump if necessary
    1-12: HCG (is it necessary for a simple test cycle?) - 250iu 2x EW
    13-14: Off
    15-16: Torem 120 mg ED
    15-16: Nolvadex : 40 mg ED
    17-19 or 20: Torem 60 mg ED
    17-19 or 20: Nolvadex 20 mg ED

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    At 19 you should not be cycling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm View Post
    I'm not running this cycle until I'm older, but I would love your opinions on it.
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    The cycle looks great my friend and HCG is a good idea no matter the size of the cycle.

    You have been around long enough to know the ins and out so no doubt you put all that to use when choosing and putting this cycle together...Cant wait to see you8 run this in 3-4 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    The cycle looks great my friend and HCG is a good idea no matter the size of the cycle.

    You have been around long enough to know the ins and out so no doubt you put all that to use when choosing and putting this cycle together...Cant wait to see you8 run this in 3-4 years
    Thanks for your response bro. As you can tell I have A LOT more research to do. 2-4 years isn't as bad as people crack it up to be. I want to make sure I'm doing it correctly and that will give me more than enough time.

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    i agree with lunk. hcg is a very good idea.

    if you can get your body fat even lower while waiting, you may consider starting your aromasin with just an eod dose instead of ed.

    i personally feel that a low dose first cycle is a good idea. like 400mg/wk instead of 500. just my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    i agree with lunk. hcg is a very good idea.

    if you can get your body fat even lower while waiting, you may consider starting your aromasin with just an eod dose instead of ed.

    i personally feel that a low dose first cycle is a good idea. like 400mg/wk instead of 500. just my personal opinion.
    Thank you sir, I will definitely look into that. I wish to be 180-190 8-10% body fat naturally by the time I'm 23-24 but time will tell.
    Last edited by Shsm; 10-26-2012 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Corrections

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    Perfect first cycle.

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    That's sick.

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    Shsm, you are funny brother. Resisting the temptation on a daily, huh?

    Have you thought of trying peptides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    Shsm, you are funny brother. Resisting the temptation on a daily, huh?

    Have you thought of trying peptides?
    Have you thought about taking a dump on my chest?

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    I can't say the thought has crossed my mind, well, until you just now mentioned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    Shsm, you are funny brother. Resisting the temptation on a daily, huh?

    Have you thought of trying peptides?
    Not as easy as it seems man lol. I haven't looked into them much. I got great results from Ostarine but there's not enough research on it for me to run it comfortably again in the future.

    I've said before, I plan on competing in Men's Physique in the near future and my progress is starting to diminish no matter how hard I train or how strict I diet. TRT doesn't seem like a hassle with the fact that my planned career choice revolves predominately around the medical field.

    I see kids my age at my gym hop on a cycle and make more gains in 8 weeks than I make in a year. Granted, they probably don't know what they're doing to themselves but it's still extremely tempting watching them grow.

    Modern bodybuilding revolves around PEDs, the sooner you acknowledge what they are the harder it becomes to resist the urge to try them.

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    SARMs are suppressive to the HPTA. Steer clear of them! If you are going to disturb your HPTA, make it worth your while.

    Yes, I understand that career choices sometimes coincide with TRT/AAS. What has you set on relying on your physique as a career rather than a seemingly intelligent mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    SARMs are suppressive to the HPTA. Steer clear of them! If you are going to disturb your HPTA, make it worth your while.

    Yes, I understand that career choices sometimes coincide with TRT/AAS. What has you set on relying on your physique as a career rather than a seemingly intelligent mind?
    I recovered fine fortunately. The bullshit they post saying how they're not suppressive is just a marketing slogan. Less suppressive than a cycle of AAS, sure, but definitely they still suppress your HPTA.

    My planned career choice is a Registered Nurse, not a physique competitor. Lifting is a huge part of my life, but I definitely don't plan on using my physique as my sole source of income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    I can't say the thought has crossed my mind, well, until you just now mentioned it.
    Lol. That's too bad, man. Could have been a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striving4Aesthetics View Post
    Lol. That's too bad, man. Could have been a lot of fun.
    I looked through your Anavar only cycle proposal. Did you have any further questions in regards to that cycle or are the only questions you have of a fecal nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm View Post
    I recovered fine fortunately. The bullshit they post saying how they're not suppressive is just a marketing slogan. Less suppressive than a cycle of AAS, sure, but definitely they still suppress your HPTA.
    My planned career choice is a Registered Nurse, not a physique competitor. Lifting is a huge part of my life, but I definitely don't plan on using my physique as my sole source of income.
    Yes, it's a sales pitch. They tested it at 3mg/day, suggested dose is 20mg/day.

    You seem knowledgeable enough to understand that once you get in the game you don't get out as easily as people think. Also, if you plan on just doing one "cycle" it won't be worth your effort. Take this time to enjoy your HPTA. Go out and have fun, fornicate to the fullest and enjoy not being known as the juicer. There are a lot of ups and downs once you start, but, it depends on your goals and motivations in life. Personally I started getting into "bodybuilding" when I was 15. Reading everything, it has always been what I wanted to do. Got a picture of myself in a Swedish bodybuilding magazine @ the age of 15. Pretty funny looking back and I waited a long time before I started.

    It really isn't about the gains, if you get into the sport for the gains you are going to be disappointed sooner or later. You have to love the training. After a while you are going to hit a plateau with steroids as well. Then comes the next decision, do you start with slin and hGH? Two or three grams of AAS/week? It just keeps on building up and you are going to have to draw the line at some point. Do you regress and just try to keep a symmetrical and lean physique? My point is you have to love the sport, not the steroids. The guys that come on here for first cycle advice and are never heard of again are just wasting their time. They will lose their temporary gains and end up with problems that may be permanent. Some guys do one cycle and keep the gains, but that is because they have a foundation of experience lifting and dieting. They too can achieve their goals without the use of AAS. Some are just in a hurry..

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    I love the sport, I couldn't imagine myself living without it. I understand getting into steroids is a lifelong commitment. I'll be researching until I make my decision.

    Regarding Ostarine, check this out http://www.ergo-log.com/enobosarmtrial.html

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    Yes, I know. I recently had a friend gets labs done to confirm suppression as well.

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