Clen/Ephedrine at my age

Hey guys-

So, wanted to make a fresh start/thread and ask about Clen/Ephedrine. I understand and agree that I should not be using AAS at this time, however I have a very good connect for everything, so although frustrating, I am going to take y'all's advice and wait. However, in the meantime while losing weight, I've heard wonders from the above supplements. I know NOT to use T3 don't worry. No hormones/AAS for me. However, I have the above readily available from my source and wanted your thoughts?

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Let me know what y'all think?

I wouldn't either UGL in both of those pictures, they both have extremely mixed reviews.

I'm not going to comment on whether it not you should run Clenbuterol as I have no knowledge on the compound, nor do I intend to.

If the other knowledgeable say it's a good idea then I would definitely use Ar-r.com or purchasepeptides.com for your supplies. Their products are sold in liquid form and rendered as 'research chemicals', thus making them 100% legal in most countries. Seeing as you live in the US it's unbelievably fast shipping with a close to zero chance of your package getting seized.

Good luck bro!

if your fat and wna loose it mate buy some stuff called oxy elite pro. alot better for weight loss. i used that instead of gear to rip down last year and lost about a stone in 4weeks. only thing is you cnt have any more caffeine with it as its got like 1000mg or something or more ineach tablet.

dont put your self at risk straight off, save that for the real gear buddy.

but good luck with whatever you do mate, hope you get to where you want to be!

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Originally Posted by Shsm

I wouldn't either UGL in both of those pictures, they both have extremely mixed reviews.

I'm not going to comment on whether it not you should run Clenbuterol as I have no knowledge on the compound, nor do I intend to.

If the other knowledgeable say it's a good idea then I would definitely use Ar-r.com or purchasepeptides.com for your supplies. Their products are sold in liquid form and rendered as 'research chemicals', thus making them 100% legal in most countries. Seeing as you live in the US it's unbelievably fast shipping with a close to zero chance of your package getting seized.

Good luck bro!

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Same as ruiproducts.com?

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Originally Posted by Shsm

I wouldn't either UGL in both of those pictures, they both have extremely mixed reviews.

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Really? I heard really good things about gs and bp?

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Originally Posted by 21yearsold

Same as ruiproducts.com?

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Yes, RUI and Ar-r are the same company I believe. I don't personally use them anymore bur it's good stuff and they're currently having a 20% sale along with constant other sales. Take advantage of a great offer.

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Originally Posted by 21yearsold

Really? I heard really good things about gs and bp?

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With any UGL you're going to have mixed reviews.

If I was in your position I would definitely go with research chemicals. They provide much more of a bang for your buck according to most of these gear websites I see and they're legal. I don't see why you wouldn't go with them. Both of the websites I listed are extremely reputable so it's safe to say their products are accurately dosed. Liquids are also much easier to get precise dosages with and convenient rather than using something like a pill cutter to slice up meds.

Will do...

Couple questions on the Clen:
-What should a guy 6'3" and 235-ish dose at IYO?
-Shelf-life?
-Possible warnings?

Also... No other thoughts on the GS/BP labs and pharma? I have another that has a hookup for DP (think skyrim)... Heard great things about them too. Any thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Shsm

With any UGL you're going to have mixed reviews.

If I was in your position I would definitely go with research chemicals. They provide much more of a bang for your buck according to most of these gear websites I see and they're legal. I don't see why you wouldn't go with them. Both of the websites I listed are extremely reputable so it's safe to say their products are accurately dosed. Liquids are also much easier to get precise dosages with and convenient rather than using something like a pill cutter to slice up meds.

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Sorry didn't see this before I posted. Gotcha. Well I don't think I saw Ephedrine there on Ar-r? What about them?

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Sorry didn't see this before I posted. Gotcha. Well I don't think I saw Ephedrine there on Ar-r? What about them?

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I don't see Ephedrine either on either website. Sorry bud I can't help you there. You're using Western Union or Money Gram for your payments, correct? If so, you have NUMEROUS other sources to choose from than just one, both internationally and domestically.

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Originally Posted by Shsm

You're using Western Union or Money Gram for your payments, correct? If so, you have NUMEROUS other sources to choose from than just one, both internationally and domestically.

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Glad I heard this before purchasing! :) I will be now!

I have a hard time finding them online. Only have connects locally for DP/BP/GS stuff through my guy.

Of course I do. Shoot me a PM and I'd edit the part of you inquiring for a source ASAP. A bunch of guys will start PMing you begging you to try their "products".

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Of course I do. Shoot me a PM and I'd edit the part of you inquiring for a source ASAP. A bunch of guys will start PMing you begging you to try their "products".

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How do I do this? I can't see profiles yet because I'm a new member.

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How do I do this? I can't see profiles yet because I'm a new member.

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Are you on phone? If not, click on my username and select "Private Message". If that doesn't work I'll send you one.

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Are you on phone? If not, click on my username and select "Private Message". If that doesn't work I'll send you one.

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This is what I see:
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I don't know if I have the ability to use PM system.

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This is what I see:


I don't know if I have the ability to use PM system.

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That's very weird, especially for someone with 86 posts. Try getting to 100 posts. If that doesn't work I'll just text you if you're comfortable with that. Lol

You can get ephederine at any pharmacy/drugstore. The ECA stack is much safer IMO than clenbuterol, and much more effective. Ill never use Clen again.

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That's very weird, especially for someone with 86 posts. Try getting to 100 posts. If that doesn't work I'll just text you if you're comfortable with that. Lol

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I think you should be able to email me. Try that. If not go ahead and text me. I'd rather not spam post and get banned lulz.

If money isnt a issue run gw501516.

Eca needs to be ran 2-3 times a day.

Clen is ok. Im usi g it at the moment until my powder gw501516 gets here.

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Originally Posted by warmouth

You can get ephederine at any pharmacy/drugstore. The ECA stack is much safer IMO than clenbuterol, and much more effective. Ill never use Clen again.

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Why?

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Originally Posted by t-dogg

If money isnt a issue run gw501516.

Eca needs to be ran 2-3 times a day.

Clen is ok. Im usi g it at the moment until my powder gw501516 gets here.

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Quick wiki research looks promising... Have NO idea where to start... Street name?

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Originally Posted by 21yearsold

I think you should be able to email me. Try that. If not go ahead and text me. I'd rather not spam post and get banned lulz.

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Done.

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This is what I see when I click profiles:
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If money isnt a issue run gw501516.

Eca needs to be ran 2-3 times a day.

Clen is ok. Im usi g it at the moment until my powder gw501516 gets here.

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What do you think about dosage with that?

K so this is what I'm thinking:
DAILY
140mcgs Clen
2 mg Liquid Keto
20 mg GW-501516

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by 21yearsold

Why?

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Side effects, and the lack of research on humans as far as permantent heart damage. The stuff doesnt have the same "feeling" as most stimulants(coffee, ephed, caffine, amphets, etc). You cant "feel" it at all. It makes your heart POUND and I my heart beat has woke my wife up at night. I can see my heart beat through my chest and stomach. It is thought to permanantly alter the walls of the left ventricle of the heart as well as hardening of the artieries(several threads on this). I feel safer running ephederine, as it is used for humans, not chickens or pigs like clen. Everyone is different, and many people use clen. For me, the risk outweights the reward, especially when you can get the same results by diet and cardio. Sure, it will take longer, but you are improving your heart and not damaging it. If I had the choice, I would try GW, as Tdogg said. But as far as anything else, ECA all the way.

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Originally Posted by 21yearsold

K so this is what I'm thinking:
DAILY
140mcgs Clen
2 mg Liquid Keto
20 mg GW-501516

Thoughts?

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No need to run clen and GW together. Tdogg was stating that he was using clen only until his GW got in.

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Originally Posted by warmouth

No need to run clen and GW together. Tdogg was stating that he was using clen only until his GW got in.

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K so what you said kinda scares the shit out of me... No clen.
DAILY
2mg Liquid Keto
10 mg GW-501516

Any thoughts on the Keto/GW simultaneously? I'm getting prescribed GHRP-6 and Semerolin here soon too so I was thinking it might work out pretty well.

hey 21 yr old what r ur stats? weight height bf%? what does ur diet look like? i didnt see it so if u posted it already sorry :)

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hey 21 yr old what r ur stats? weight height bf%? what does ur diet look like? i didnt see it so if u posted it already sorry :)

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No worries!
STATS
6'3"
235lbs.
BF% Unknown... Mostly BF though. BMI is 28ish

DIET
No-carb diet. High protein, High Fat... Ground Beef, Eggs, Bacon, Cheese, Water, Fresca. Started on Monday and have lost about 4 lbs already. Looking to get back down to 200 range.

I ran 20mgs on gw501516. Clen i run 120mcgs. And the eca stack i dont use really much.


There is no reason to use keto with gw501516.

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I ran 20mgs on gw501516. Clen i run 120mcgs. And the eca stack i dont use really much.

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What kind of effects did you see from the GW? How long did it take to kick in? I heard it decreases fast-twitch muscle... Isn't that bad?

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What kind of effects did you see from the GW? How long did it take to kick in? I heard it decreases fast-twitch muscle... Isn't that bad?

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Fat loss and increased endurance. Its pretty fast acting.

And no you cant decrease fast twitch fiber muscles,"dumb myth".

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No worries!
STATS
6'3"
235lbs.
BF% Unknown... Mostly BF though. BMI is 28ish

DIET
No-carb diet. High protein, High Fat... Ground Beef, Eggs, Bacon, Cheese, Water, Fresca. Started on Monday and have lost about 4 lbs already. Looking to get back down to 200 range.

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IMO u should be in the nutrition section getting ur diet ironed out. depending how fat u are (sorry ;)) u may do just fine with a relatively low carb diet with a decnt deficit. i personally would not run a strait keto diet and would also not start with keto. good low carb diet with decent deficit plus a planned refeed + cardio and good weight lifting routine will get u going and be a lot healthier than a high fat zero carb keto IMO..

oh and IMO u dont need eca or clen either.. especially rite now. u wanna start simple man. eca and carb cycles/keto is stuff u do when u hit a plateau..

but ephedrine is really effective? I've read many different opinions