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    Wink Wish me luck... 16 weeks Test prop/Masteron/Trenbolone starting next week!

    dieting for a comp..

    16 weeks Test propionate 50mg ED
    16 weeks Aromasin 12.5mg ED
    14 weeks Masteron 100mg ED
    12 weeks Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ED
    12 weeks Cabergoline 0.5mg 2x per week
    10 weeks HCG 250iu 2x per week
    8 weeks Clenbuterol 40/80/120mcg ED (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) (supplementing with potassium and taurine while on)

    PCT:

    4 weeks Clomid 50/50/25/25
    4 weeks Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    4 weeks Armoasin 12.5mg ED
    4 weeks Unleashed/post cycle (PCT supplement)
    6 weeks DAA 6g ED
    6 weeks Maca 4g ED
    6 weeks Tribulus 2.5g ED


    will update with pictures along the way..
    Last edited by RyanGreg; 10-27-2012 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Changed PCT - increased clomid dose

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    Heavy cycle. You didn't ask for critique so I will refrain

    Good luck!

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    Nice boss! Is this going to be your log? I will subscribe if that is the case!

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    Why would you run that for so long?
    Wants to be half that amount of time imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Heavy cycle. You didn't ask for critique so I will refrain

    Good luck!
    Please critique if there is something to critique about lol..

    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    Nice boss! Is this going to be your log? I will subscribe if that is the case!
    Yup will update weekly

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Why would you run that for so long?
    Wants to be half that amount of time imho
    Comp is 16 weeks away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Heavy cycle. You didn't ask for critique so I will refrain

    Good luck!
    ***tapping foot wondering if he should say it****

    NOPE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    ***tapping foot wondering if he should say it****

    NOPE!!!
    Say it............lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Please critique if there is something to critique about lol..
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    If comp is 16 weeks away it doesn't mean you have to start today. These compounds can be used for 8 to 10 weeks with outstanding results. 16 weeks is just too aggressive. And PCT will most certainly not suffice. You will need to have a more aggressive PCT.

    Maybe consider longer esters if you want to start now. You will also feel a whole lot better with a little more test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    If comp is 16 weeks away it doesn't mean you have to start today. These compounds can be used for 8 to 10 weeks with outstanding results. 16 weeks is just too aggressive. And PCT will most certainly not suffice. You will need to have a more aggressive PCT.

    Maybe consider longer esters if you want to start now. You will also feel a whole lot better with a little more test.
    Yeah but i want to start now lol... Surely i would benefit more from a 16 week compared to a 8-10 week cycle right....

    How can i be more aggressive with my PCT? JUst higher doses or clomid and nova and run it for longer or what?.Thanks for the post by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Say it............lol
    I have sneeking suspicion that no amount of reason or advise will change your mind on what you are set to do. I would need to go back through your other threads but it seems to me like this cycle goes against alot of advise you have been given. (if I am wrong so be it. I am old and don't remember everyones threads).

    I think it best I offer you best of luck and a well wishes for good health!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Yeah but i want to start now lol... Surely i would benefit more from a 16 week compared to a 8-10 week cycle right....

    How can i be more aggressive with my PCT? JUst higher doses or clomid and nova and run it for longer or what?.Thanks for the post by the way.
    Yes, if you go through with this I would increase tamox and clomid if you're going to shut down that long. Clomid 100/50/50/50/25 and tamox 40/20/20/20/10
    Like I said, you can start now, but I would recommend longer esters, all of which are available in these compounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Yes, if you go through with this I would increase tamox and clomid if you're going to shut down that long. Clomid 100/50/50/50/25 and tamox 40/20/20/20/10
    Like I said, you can start now, but I would recommend longer esters, all of which are available in these compounds.
    Ok thank you very much for the post. I will increase clomid and nova doses and run for longer

    Already got short esters.. can't swap now. :S

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    Personally I would run test only for 4 weeks if you want to start now then add the other compounds, drop the tren 14days out then finish on test and Masteton

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Personally I would run test only for 4 weeks if you want to start now then add the other compounds, drop the tren 14days out then finish on test and Masteton
    I like that. I like it alot. This way you can make use of what you already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Yes, if you go through with this I would increase tamox and clomid if you're going to shut down that long. Clomid 100/50/50/50/25 and tamox 40/20/20/20/10
    Like I said, you can start now, but I would recommend longer esters, all of which are available in these compounds.
    Can i go 100/100/50/50/25 with clomid? Would this be even better? Or does it become a problem if there is too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    dieting for a comp..

    Too long.

    16 weeks Test propionate 50mg ED12 weeks out try this...Prop 100 ed

    16 weeks Aromasin 12.5mg EDNot really sure, i would try eod.
    14 weeks Masteron 100mg ED75mgs ed
    12 weeks Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ED75ed
    12 weeks Cabergoline 0.5mg 2x per weekUp to you
    10 weeks HCG 250iu 2x per weekfine
    8 weeks Clenbuterol 40/80/120mcg ED (2 weeks on 2 weeks off)That's good too.

    PCT:

    5 weeks Clomid 100/100/50/25
    5 weeks Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/10
    5 weeks DAA 6g EDnah
    5 weeks Maca 4g EDnah
    5 weeks Tribulus 2.5g EDGarbage
    4 weeks Unleashed/post cycle (PCT supplement)Garbage
    4 weeks Armoasin 12.5mg ED

    will update with pictures along the way..

    Just my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Just my thoughts.
    Thanks for the post stpete.....

    don't want to do things EOD i prefer to do ED to keep blood levels stable so less sides.. my masteron comes in 1ml/100mg ampoules and it would just be annoying dosing at 75mg and cannot be bothered breaking them all into vials.... my first time ever on tren kind of scared of 50mg ED already lol don't really want to increase this..

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    Should i run the cabergoline in PCT as well>

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    No, it has a long half-life and personally I believe the prolactin sides is a myth. The drugs you are taking to combat it can produce worse effects than you are trying to prevent. Control your e2 and use caber "as needed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    No, it has a long half-life and personally I believe the prolactin sides is a myth. The drugs you are taking to combat it can produce worse effects than you are trying to prevent. Control your e2 and use caber "as needed".
    Ok cool thanks sworder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Thanks for the post stpete.....

    don't want to do things EOD i prefer to do ED to keep blood levels stable so less sides.. my masteron comes in 1ml/100mg ampoules and it would just be annoying dosing at 75mg and cannot be bothered breaking them all into vials.... my first time ever on tren kind of scared of 50mg ED already lol don't really want to increase this..
    Where did you see EOD in my post? I said ED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Where did you see EOD in my post? I said ED.
    Yeah I don't see it either. probably talking about Aromasin, which I agree should be EOD. Or lower the dose and go ED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Where did you see EOD in my post? I said ED.
    I have no idea....lol.

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    caber is an amazing drug? ill stay on caber year round till i die . its a beautiful drug

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Thanks for the post stpete.....

    don't want to do things EOD i prefer to do ED to keep blood levels stable so less sides.. my masteron comes in 1ml/100mg ampoules and it would just be annoying dosing at 75mg and cannot be bothered breaking them all into vials.... my first time ever on tren kind of scared of 50mg ED already lol don't really want to increase this..
    I'm sorry i don't understand. I know it's easier to do it your way but you asked for a cycle review. Now, your decision is yours and i wish you all the best. But i've done a lot more than bust amps and put them into syringes or vials if i had to.

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    That's quite a cycle! Stpete's critique was informative. Too advanced for me to get into.

    You wanted a good luck & I must say "Good Luck"! I hope you do really well & have a great competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazz View Post
    That's quite a cycle! Stpete's critique was informative. Too advanced for me to get into.

    You wanted a good luck & I must say "Good Luck"! I hope you do really well & have a great competition!
    Thanks....yeh thats for the posts also stpete..i may take your advice and go with 75mg ED

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    Should i run HCG for the whole entire 16 weeks or will the last 10 weeks be enough?

    Can anyone give me some input here please...

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    wow clomid at 100mg ed thats crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Should i run HCG for the whole entire 16 weeks or will the last 10 weeks be enough?

    Can anyone give me some input here please...
    yes the entire cycle.

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    Looking forward to before/after pictures...make sure to take all measurements too.

    I'm doing a similar (Though much less aggressive) cycle mid-next year....with that in mind, sub'd

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    Good luck and enjoy!! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger527 View Post
    wow clomid at 100mg ed thats crazy
    I changed it back down to 50mg ED.

    Quote Originally Posted by poppz View Post
    yes the entire cycle.
    Ok i will start HCG from week 2 all the way up until the end..... Will just have to get some more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1 View Post
    Looking forward to before/after pictures...make sure to take all measurements too.

    I'm doing a similar (Though much less aggressive) cycle mid-next year....with that in mind, sub'd


    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Good luck and enjoy!! :-)
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppz View Post
    yes the entire cycle.
    Someone told me HCG loses its effectiveness after 8-10 weeks... Is this not true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanGreg View Post
    Someone told me HCG loses its effectiveness after 8-10 weeks... Is this not true?
    Nope

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    I think 16 weeks is ok for comp prep, looks like mine will be about 18 weeks.

    Marcus, why drop the tren 2 weeks out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkn View Post
    I think 16 weeks is ok for comp prep, looks like mine will be about 18 weeks.

    Marcus, why drop the tren 2 weeks out?
    yeah i thought it would be good to keep tren going right up to the comp as it hardens the physique.....

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    ^ because he said finish with Mast, which makes sense.

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    16-18 weeks is nessary if its your first show. over the years u know what works and when to start. if you start doing guest posing and sponsor events u end up staying pretty learn half the year anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkn View Post
    I think 16 weeks is ok for comp prep, looks like mine will be about 18 weeks.

    Marcus, why drop the tren 2 weeks out?
    You drop the tren to help disperse some water weight, while keeping a low dose test and Masteton to help keep you from crashing. Many stop all compounds ten days out to totally drop the water and avoid knotting on contest day but the op wasn't interested in my approach so I'll leave him to it. Contest prep is a fine art what needs perfecting.

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