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    Var beginning or Towards end of cycle?

    Planning cycle for Dec and Ive read through alot of post/threads and get different answers the more I research.
    First cycle was test-e only @ 500/wk 12 weeks had good success.
    Second cycle Im planning test-e @500wk/12wks and var @ 50mg/day for 5/6weeks
    Question is it best to run Var at the beginning 6 weeks or last 6 weeks?

    PCT is the same nolva/clomid
    LDex during cycle

    Thanks in advance!!

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    I prefer last 6 weeks. I'd take it to 60mg at least.

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    Id run it at the end. You will look your best.

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    I would run at the end when levels are high

    And agree with Aus no less then 60. I ran at 100 and pumps can be a little much sometimes

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    Yeah thats what i was thinking too...thanks everyone, looking forward to seeing what it does.
    First cycle with test only had me impressed so if this works out better I might have to walk around with no shirt all winter lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
    Yeah thats what i was thinking too...thanks everyone, looking forward to seeing what it does.
    First cycle with test only had me impressed so if this works out better I might have to walk around with no shirt all winter lol
    Yeah don't do that

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    for me, it depends on which esther of test I'm running:

    short esther (P), then I;ll run it at the end,
    long esther (e or c), then i'll run at the beginning

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    I agree take it at the end its the best for your look.

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    Either or. Like Times said, it depends on the ester. BUT, that's not etched in stone either. Confused yet?

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    Times Roman, why do you say that? Could you explain? Im guessing it has something to do w/ the long or short ester but do tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Either or. Like Times said, it depends on the ester. BUT, that's not etched in stone either. Confused yet?
    Yeps...lol

    And Times why is that..according to long/short esters..Im always willing to learn more

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    Quote Originally Posted by harley121 View Post
    Times Roman, why do you say that? Could you explain? Im guessing it has something to do w/ the long or short ester but do tell
    Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
    Yeps...lol

    And Times why is that..according to long/short esters..Im always willing to learn more
    Not sure when Times will be back in this thread to respond. But in short, the long ester takes time to spool up (4-6wks average) so if you want the front end kick with almost immediate results, an oral like dbol will do the trick. Short esters take less time to spool up (1-3wks average) so the oral works well at the end of the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harley121 View Post
    Times Roman, why do you say that? Could you explain? Im guessing it has something to do w/ the long or short ester but do tell
    if a long esther, then for the first 3 or 4 weeks, since it won't be kicking in (the test), might as well take the var. if short, like P, you'll get your kick in the first couple of days, so might as well put it at the end when gains seem to taper off..................

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    Good info...thanks for everyones help

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