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    the cycle has begun...

    Hey guys this is cycle #2:
    Sust 250 2×a week
    Hcg 250 iu 2×a week
    Tamox and Clomid for pct
    This is week #3 into the cycle.
    Stats: 42 yrs.
    Height 5'11"
    Weight 203 lbs
    Bf% about 15-16%
    First cycle was sust alone 500 a week for 6 weeks no hcg or pct. No sides recovered quickly. No bloodwork, however I had no problem with libido ( getting it up or keeping it up.) This time I'm going to run the cycle 10-12 weeks, not sure yet.
    So far strength has increased and gained a few pounds (then lost a couple.) Changed diet a bit cutting out carbs except for breakfast and post workout meal. Haven't experienced any sides to speak of yet except for insomnia. Trying to combat it with benedryl. Any suggestions or advice or constructive criticism is greatly appreciated.

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    did you use any ai for your first cycle? didnt like it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude
    did you use any ai for your first cycle? didnt like it?
    No I didn't use any. Didn't have any sides.

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    I would have one on hand in case. I would even use it, just maybe a little less than the normal protocol. You may very well have had sides you didnt see, feel, or know about. I did the same thing, and I had some issues and had no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    I would have one on hand in case. I would even use it, just maybe a little less than the normal protocol. You may very well have had sides you didnt see, feel, or know about. I did the same thing, and I had some issues and had no idea.
    What type if sides could occur without noticing? What would you suggest for AI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.e.bowen

    No I didn't use any. Didn't have any sides.
    It's possible to be asymptomatic for elevated estrogen - rare but possible. Elevated estrogen can put you at an increased risk for stroke or heart attack - and often a stroke or heart attack isn't going to give you advanced warning.

    If you are going gamble like that, I strongly urge you to have BW done at end of cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    It's possible to be asymptomatic for elevated estrogen - rare but possible. Elevated estrogen can put you at an increased risk for stroke or heart attack - and often a stroke or heart attack isn't going to give you advanced warning.

    If you are going gamble like that, I strongly urge you to have BW done at end of cycle.
    What would you suggest for AI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.e.bowen

    What would you suggest for AI?
    At least anastrozole, 0.25mg q.a.d

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    At least anastrozole, 0.25mg q.a.d
    Thanks for you time, I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.e.bowen

    Thanks for you time, I appreciate it.
    A pleasure to help. Anytime.

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    MuscleInk answered it for me Thats what happened to me. BP got uncontrollable, as well as heartrate. Strokes and Heart attacks arent worth not using an AI.

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    We have a sticky about AIs very good read by Swifto.I suggest you check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog
    We have a sticky about AIs very good read by Swifto.I suggest you check it out.
    Checking it out now...thanks.

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