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    tstemen732 is offline New Member
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    New Guy Needing Advice.....

    Well I am a steroid newbie and need some major advice.....

    I'll start with my stats: 35yrs old, 5'7 170lbs 16% bf, lift 3 times a week and have an "OK" diet

    I am looking to mostly gain lean mass and lower BF without loosing size. I have heard good things about AR-R and was thinking of putting in an order but not sure wth to order. -ot really into injections would rather stick to liquids or pill forms.

    Is AR-R my best bet or any other suggestions??

    Any suggestions would be great!!

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    Perhaps you may want to look into peptides instead of steroids if you can not inject!

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    Start here if you’re under 24:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...**-(GOOD-READ)

    First Cycle Protocol

    Test E or C for 12 weeks at 500mg per week. The 500mg is split between 2 shots that are 3.5 days apart, so Monday morning and Thursday evening for example.

    Please see this thread by jimmyinkedup for further explanation: 1st cycle a quick 4-6 week of tren-a. Advice?
    You want to run and AI from day 1 of your cycle to control estrogen levels. You can use Arimidex or Aromasin to do so.

    Please see this thread by Swifto for more info:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

    Proper PCT is needed to return your natural testosterone levels back to normal. This will involve the use of Clomid, which is up for debate with Atomini, Nolvadex , and Torem depending on which you decide on.

    A recent post by Swifto explaining all your PCT option:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Which-for-what

    For more information regarding PCT start times:
    PCT start times

    For more information regarding proper PCT:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

    HCG can be incorporated into your cycle and how to do so is debatable also. Most vets recommend 250 IU every 3.5 days starting in the second week up until the start of your PCT.

    For more info please read Swifto’s HCG thread:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mportant-is-it

    Now that you have done some research, come up with a cycle and the forum will be happy to critique it for you and provide and adjustments needed.

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    You won't get AAS from Ar-r mate the products they sell are research chemicals for pct and fat loss.
    You said your diet was ok? Have you been to the nutrition section and posted it up? Your diet should really be dialled in before steroids otherwise you won't get the benefit on cycle.
    But welcome bro!

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    Can I get same affect with peptides?

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    Peptides are somewhat new so there isn't alot of concrete information out there right now. I would suggest you read what Bluewaffle prescribed. This is the bread and butter of what most guys base there cycles around. You are going to have to accept injections if you want any real benefit from AAS. Welcome to the forum, these guys are great and will help you.

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    Yea I think I'm just going to have to man up and inject....
    Gotta say got to be one of the best forums... did not expect so much help this fast

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    We all sit around waiting for the next victim to post

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    Yea I have alot to learn and need to do alot of reading and find a trusting "supplier " before I take the plunge

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    Quote Originally Posted by tstemen732 View Post
    Yea I have alot to learn and need to do alot of reading and find a trusting "supplier " before I take the plunge
    Never mind phishing. Read up

    Educational Threads

    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.TzgpVFF3k34

    Why HCG is So Important

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

    HCG

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Pregnyl%29-FAQ

    SERM, AI

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

    Steroid Guide

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.TzkpD1F3k34

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    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

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    Most peptides are injects as well. But slin pins are used and are ALOT easier to use. I would definitely recommend trying some peps and make a log here to help a bunch of us out. There are alot at AR that I have heard are nearly identical to AAS results. IGF-1, for instance. I guarantee you Ill be getting some soon. S4 is supposed to be another great one, but does come with side effects, but it is not an injectable.

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    Slin pins??? Sorry for sounding so ignorant about all this but I guess I really am..haha Have read about S4 and was thinking about it it. Read the thread on here and sounds pretty legit from AR-R

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    Slin pins=Insulin syringes

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    Ahh got ya...I did see them on there site....is it ok to inject in thigh or should I stick to glute

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    Quite honestly...You are not ready for this. Not to say never but you def. need to consider researching, reading and listening for a few months or better. You should really have a pretty damn good idea of whats happening before you jump into this...and frankly yiu have no clue at this point.

    Spend the next few months on here getting your diet straight and reading EVERYTHING. You should feel like an expert and be ready to ansew new guys questions before you even start down this road.

    No offense meant by any of this...just is what it is

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    Nope I agree...plan was January 1st for 1st cycle

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