Cycle Question

[Gigantor28]

Hi All-
I am getting ready to start a cycle and had a question. I am starting a cycle as follows:
Week# 1-13 Test enanthate 500mg, Tren 300mg
Week#1-11 Deca 400mg
Week#1-5 Dbol 20mg-50mg
Week# 3-19 Tamoxifen

This is the 4th time on this cycle, I am 6’0” 210lbs 9%BF and 28 years old, been training since i was 17. Did my first cycle 2010, and usually take approx 4 months off between cycles . Eating 4,300 calories, 92g fat, 400g protein, and 450g carbs daily. I always run liver and kidney care products throughout the entire cycle.

I have read all over on forums never to take dbol and anavar at the same time as it is a waste of time and money. The question I have is..... would it be a bad idea to start anavar at week#6 of the above cycle and run it til week#12? Dose ranging from 50mg-150mg daily.
I looked for a long time and never saw an answer to this specific question, so I apologize if this is a repeat. Any advice would be appreciated!! Thanks a lot.

[Lunk1]

I wouldnt run 2 19 nors together at those doses. Thats 700 mg of serious sides.

[austinite]

^ why not?

[Lunk1]

^ why not?

Nothing wrong with running them together..especially if your not sensative but considering side effects that accompony them I woild be concerned about Prolactin buildup, ED and RBC increase. Also of course High BP and HR. I am not saying don't run em together as some do. I just think if you are going to run them together The doses should be lower.

[champ14]

What do u think is a safer dosage for the two 19nors?

[austinite]

What do u think is a safer dosage for the two 19nors?

Don't hijack, bro

[Lunk1]

What do u think is a safer dosage for the two 19nors?

Don't hijack, bro

I'll answer no prob. I would prefer to keep the combo combined down to 500 mg so like 300 deca and 200 tren or so. Some ppl can handle more with no problems but it is going to increase the risk in sides

[Gigantor28]

Thanks for the input guys. Anyone have any opinions about running the var after the bol?

[Lunk1]

Thanks for the input guys. Anyone have any opinions about running the var after the bol?

Your talking about 12-13 weeks straight of orals. Thats along time to stress your liver. My choice is one or the other....

[Gigantor28]

Thanks Lunk1. I think i will opt out of the var this time and run it next time instead of the bol. Even though var is supposedly less toxic to the liver... not worth the risk. I have ran the 19 nors at the same doses for the last 3 cycles and haven't had any issues with side effect yet. Guess I'm just lucky in that area. haha

[gymfu]

I agree that's a lot. But I have heard of guys using var at the end of their cycles, like the last 6 weeks. Don't bother with anything less than 60mg per day. And I would not take the var and dbol at the same time.

Have you had blood work done?

[Gigantor28]

Yea i started having blood work done 3-4 times a year, mainly just checking liver and kidney function. ALT level was 41 (normal range= 6-42) and AST level was 31 (normal range=11-39). So, they were creeping up to to the top of the normal range. But, still within normal.

[gymfu]

Yea i started having blood work done 3-4 times a year, mainly just checking liver and kidney function. ALT level was 41 (normal range= 6-42) and AST level was 31 (normal range=11-39). So, they were creeping up to to the top of the normal range. But, still within normal.

Wow those are good numbers. What are you using for liver aid?

[Gigantor28]

My friend turned me on to "Himalaya" brand "LiverCare" and "Uricare". When I'm on i usually double or triple the dosage since the recommended dose if set for people that don't use gear. That stuff has seemed to work really well, its cheap, and can be found on just about any vitamin shop or just order online like i do.