Sustanon 250 bunk?

[JellyMan]

Hey all,

I have a question in regards to my gear. I'm in the 8th week of a sustanon cycle or genuine name (Genisis testone 250 compound) The vial's look legit, batch # scratched off and red cap in tact. Though 4 weeks in at 400mg p/w I didn't notice much of a change, weight increased about a kg or two, libido same as always and no extra strength. I took the advise of a mate and upped it to 700mg p/w. For a few days I felt a jump in libido then it fizzled out. Still no strength increase that I can see and quite placid, no aggression or agitation.

This is my second cycle. First was 300mg p/w of prop and had great results, up 10kg then lost some due to water bloat ect, libido was crazy.

My diet is in check. Average of about 5000 - 6000 calories a day 50/50 carb/protein 6 meals a day with shakes ect. Now 8 week's in I'm up about 4kg max

Does this sound like the gear could be under dosed?

Cheers.

[austinite]

Welcome.

My bloodwork on TRT was much more effective than Genesis Test E.

Genesis used to be great. And not too long ago I ranted and raved about them. Tons of fakes came about after the big bust. Genesis shut down and and relaunched under Unigen (identical labeling and amber vials). they still produce the genesis brand. Since then, it's been iffy for me. They shut down in late 2009 I believe, so any manufacturer date beyond that is quite questionable.

[Gi812Many]

Labels are worthless, serial #'s unless a known pharmaceutical company are worthless. This is your second cycle and nothing compares to your first cycle as far as gains. Your at week 8 and if the math is correct 4 kilos would be somewhere around 9lbs? Wouldnt claim it is bunk, really can not even say if it is under dosed. How long was it ago when you did your first cycle? How long have you been dieting this way, only 8 weeks? Your diet taking in that much calories, carbs and protein would most definitely put that weight on if you were not use to eating like that. Answer those questions

[JellyMan]

Thank's mate, Yeah I read up on that when I first got the gear and was a bit sus on it at first but compared images of the one I have and the ones classed as the fakes and mine looked pretty legit.

[JellyMan]

Hahaha Giate12many, I like the username.

Yep it's about 8.8lbs to be exact bro, yeah I didn't think it would be but it just strikes me as odd as you constantly hear of guys getting strength and not to mention the libido and I personally haven't experienced much, as for the gains I shouldn't complain. Have heard a lot about making the most of the first one because it's the best. I had about a 3 month gap between my cycles mate and the diet I got on top of over a year back as I wanted to be prepared but probably taking in a bit more on cycle as I'm even more strict on myself.

I should add also that another mate of mine commenced his first cycle at the same time using the same batch running 500p/w and he's only gained about three kg and smashing the food down. We are both 27, weighed about the same to begin with and been training for years.

Cheers for your feed back guys much appreciated!!

[ironbeck]

Sounds bunk or old to me.....sorry man

[JellyMan]

Welcome.

My bloodwork on TRT was much more effective than Genesis Test E.

Genesis used to be great. And not too long ago I ranted and raved about them. Tons of fakes came about after the big bust. Genesis shut down and and relaunched under Unigen (identical labeling and amber vials). they still produce the genesis brand. Since then, it's been iffy for me. They shut down in late 2009 I believe, so any manufacturer date beyond that is quite questionable.

Thank's mate, Yeah I read up on that when I first got the gear and was a bit sus on it at first but compared images of the one I have and the ones classed as the fakes and mine looked pretty legit.

[JellyMan]

Labels are worthless, serial #'s unless a known pharmaceutical company are worthless. This is your second cycle and nothing compares to your first cycle as far as gains. Your at week 8 and if the math is correct 4 kilos would be somewhere around 9lbs? Wouldnt claim it is bunk, really can not even say if it is under dosed. How long was it ago when you did your first cycle? How long have you been dieting this way, only 8 weeks? Your diet taking in that much calories, carbs and protein would most definitely put that weight on if you were not use to eating like that. Answer those questions

Hahaha Giate12many, I like the username.

Yep it's about 8.8lbs to be exact bro, yeah I didn't think it would be but it just strikes me as odd as you constantly hear of guys getting strength and not to mention the libido and I personally haven't experienced much, as for the gains I shouldn't complain. Have heard a lot about making the most of the first one because it's the best. I had about a 3 month gap between my cycles mate and the diet I got on top of over a year back as I wanted to be prepared but probably taking in a bit more on cycle as I'm even more strict on myself.

I should add also that another mate of mine commenced his first cycle at the same time using the same batch running 500p/w and he's only gained about three kg and smashing the food down. We are both 27, weighed about the same to begin with and been training for years.

Cheers for your feed back guys much appreciated!!

[JellyMan]

Sounds bunk or old to me.....sorry man

Yeah mate, the labs shut down a while back so it could be quite old now.. Cheers mate

[Buster Brown]

Your not the first guy this has happened to and def not the last, sorry but it sounds bunk. Hope you don't have a stockpile of it.

[Juced_porkchop]

Welcome.

My bloodwork on TRT was much more effective than Genesis Test E.

Genesis used to be great. And not too long ago I ranted and raved about them. Tons of fakes came about after the big bust. Genesis shut down and and relaunched under Unigen (identical labeling and amber vials). they still produce the genesis brand. Since then, it's been iffy for me. They shut down in late 2009 I believe, so any manufacturer date beyond that is quite questionable.

crap i have a bottle of primo from them from last year. good its only one.
stillsafe to use? just under dosed issues correct?

[Juced_porkchop]

*only one bottle (thank god) yes, was a prize and never got around to using it with my other primo*

[JellyMan]

Your not the first guy this has happened to and def not the last, sorry but it sounds bunk. Hope you don't have a stockpile of it.

Yeah it sucks but I guess that's the gamble you choose to play. Cheers mate and luckily for me I just bought the three to do the one cycle. Nearly bought a few extras too.