Test E Cycle But thinking of doing Primo With It

[firstcycle21]

Hello Everyone,

I will be starting a 500mg TEST E ONLY cycle as my first cycle in 2 weeks (already have my Bayer Test Depot) and am looking for the perfect PCT for recovery of natural testosterone and also keeping gains. I am being cautious with symptoms since i am prone to gyno(already have bumps formed behind both nipples) but i just want to make sure i keep my hair as well.

I am thinking of adding Primobolan to my cycle because i have access to Bayer primo as well for cheaper than usual, so i want to take advantage of that, but if im just wanting to keep my all my gains from test will 400mg/wk of Primo be good or should i go with 600mg? Money isnt an issue, i just dont want to waste 200mg if i can get same results with 400.

I will also be taking finasteride and exemestane on cycle

Cycle So Far

Week 1-12 500mg Test E + 400mg/600mg Primo? Injecting Monday/Thursday- Should i inject Test + Primo on same day or different?
Week 1-16? Or should i only take on cycle? Finasteride 1mg Every Day
Week 1-12 Exemestane 12.5mg Every Day
Week 12-16 Clomid 100/100/50/50
Week 12-16 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20


About Me-
25 years old
175lbs
5 10
Been training for 8 years
8% body fat
ive also done cycles of Hgh before and had great results - got ripped as **** and i have been able to keep low body fat with a good diet and insane workout

Goal is to get up to 200-210 pounds at the end of the cycle and be able to keep all my gains, reason i want primo is because it will lower estrogen and it helps create lean quality muscle that stays, so i wont gain 30 pounds and lose 20 lbs. Any Thoughts?

Hopefully someone can help me here? Also should i take anything alone with the testosterone to fight against side effects ? and to keep estrogen levels low?

[MickeyKnox]

You can take all the primo in the world and it wont make a lick of difference if your diet in not sound.

For your first cycle i would not complicate it with other compounds like primo. I would recommend you stick with test only.

Add hCG on cycle @ 250iu twice/wk.

Other than that, your planned cycle is fine but drop the primo. I have no experience with Finasteride.

[marcus300]

To add to the the above |^^^

You need to adjust your pct start time to 2 weeks after your last Test E shot.

I would also seriously look at your diet because after 8 yrs worth of training and your still 175lbs you diet is in need of re-designing because if you dont adjust your diet you will lose all gains after the cycle because your diet isn't adequate enough to support new tissue, if it was you would be alot heavier now...........head over to the diet section and read the stickies on bulking diets etc and then post your current diet and see if we casn help you out

[austinite]

Agree with all the above.

[human project]

No need to add the primo IMO. If you do 400mg is a waste def go 600mg. I agree with hcg and like going with low doses 250iu also. See how your body reacts I gain a ton of estrogen with hcg so I usually take 250iu every 6-8 days. I'm also not a big fan or clomid. Nolvadex should be plenty. If not bump the nolva up to 40mg for 4 wks and drop to 20 the last two. That would do more then 20mg nolva and 150mg clomid for four weeks and should be cheaper too. Clomid makes me soooooo depressed and messes with my vision

[rxdrugs36]

I eat 4000 calories a day everyday, but i was 185 but got really sick for 2 months so i lost 10 lbs, but right now i am not trying to add fat, and i know i have to eat huge to be huge, done it many times before and everytime i gain mass, i always increasemy calorie intake because i do hve an insanely fast metabolism. But thanks for checking if im on check with it! And yes i could be heavier but i am at low bodyfat, 185 of low bf looks 100x better than 200+ with 15bf+, thats why i want to use primo to help fight side effects and also keep quality lean gains that will keep me really lean! And yes i have been lifting for 8 years, was on high school wrestling so i know a lot about diets and workouts, i usually stay at the same muscle weight group for awhile when wrestling and i continue to wrestle throughtout college. and now i want to do a huge bulking cycle thats clean and will keep my gains.

[firstcycle21]

Another thing, if i did do 600mg or 400mg, i would be injecting 3cc twice a week with 400mg, but if i did 600mg i would be doing 4cc twice a week. Where could i inject 4cc? and all at once? or should i split it up?

[human project]

Another thing, if i did do 600mg or 400mg, i would be injecting 3cc twice a week with 400mg, but if i did 600mg i would be doing 4cc twice a week. Where could i inject 4cc? and all at once? or should i split it up?

Do you even have a 4cc syringe?? Most are either 1 or 3. There are many others but this is just standard. You would be fine sticking 3cc of primo in your thighs or gluteus. Truthfully I've tried shooting 3cc just about everywhere but it's still prob best to stick with big muscle groups.

[firstcycle21]

Yes, i have 5cc syringes, and can i mix my 250 Test and 300 Primo = 4CC all in the same syringe? and inject all 4cc at once in same muscle?

[human project]

Yes, i have 5cc syringes, and can i mix my 250 Test and 300 Primo = 4CC all in the same syringe? and inject all 4cc at once in same muscle?

It would prob be better to split it up a little. I know it's your first cycle so you might not want to take too many shots. I would imagine you'd be fine either way tho.

[firstcycle21]

So its fine to inject 4cc into my quads and glute? and can i mix the primo and test if they are both by BAYER?

[Sfla80]

Not sure u wanna be pinning 4cc your first time either with virgin muscles. Or even adding primo to it.

[firstcycle21]

Haha what cc you think then?

[human project]

So its fine to inject 4cc into my quads and glute? and can i mix the primo and test if they are both by BAYER?

The brand doesn't matter... You can mix just about anything together. You might get a little better uptake if u split it up a little. Two shots a week is plenty. Again you prob don't need to add primo but its not a bad idea... It's a really mild drug especially at 400-600mg dose.

[rxdrugs36]

Okay so should i inject 2cc in one leg and 2cc in the other on minfay and thursday? or what?

[human project]

Okay so should i inject 2cc in one leg and 2cc in the other on minfay and thursday? or what?

I'm guessing your primo is 200mg per ml and your sust is 250 per ml?? In that case take 1.5ml primo and mix in one cc of sust 2x per week. That would give you a weekly total of 500mg sust and 600mg prim

[rxdrugs36]

its Primobolan Depot at 100mg per amp and Testoviron Depot at 250mg per amp, its its 3 amps primo and 1 test every monday and thursday, which is 4ccs/4mL

[rxdrugs36]

Okay so the primos actually have 1.25mL in each amp and so do the Tests, so if i do 4amps of primo and 1 amp of test thats 6.25mL every monday/thursday, how should i inject?
4 amps primo every monday/thursday=1000mg per week along with 2 amps of test= 625 mg of test
3amps primo every monday/thursday= 750mg per week + 625mg test
2 amps primos every monday/thursday= 500 mg per week + 625 mg test

8 primo and 2 test = 12.5cc per week
6primo and 2 test = 10 cc per week
4 primo and 2 test = 7.5cc per week

what is the best option, again my goal is to keep all my gains, and i keep seeing infrequent suggestions for primo
how should i split up the injections and what do you suggest?

[nilrac]

I wouldn't bother with the primo. If you have never pinned before anything over 2cc per shot is alot IMO. You will know what we mean when/if you start.

[rxdrugs36]

I already have the primo, i have 100 amps of it now, but i just want to know which would yield the best results with a spot on diet and training which i already have.

[Anxnymous]

IMO, primo can be one the best cutting supplements to take, BUT, if its not at least 1000mgs/w it wont do anything.

[rxdrugs36]

1gram a week? thats a joke, you must of had shit primo if u had to do 1000 mg to yield any results.....Anyways can i get some advice please? read above posts...

[binsser]

It's not a joke I was doing 1750mg for 10 weeks and now have dropped it to 1000 primo is well know for being done in 1000 plus mg a week because that's what u need just bang 3ml in one place and 1ml in another and ur done bud it's not a advised to put more than 2.5ml in anyone place but many have and have been fine!

[firstcycle21]

Okay so if i did 1000mL of Primo and 2mL of Test a week, how would i split up the injections? Both are E esters

[Anxnymous]

Lol then don't listen to us, go use 500mgs an watch your effects, you will be disappointed.

[austinite]

No need for a gram if it's your first time. The main thing with primo is it needs to be used for a long time, no less than 16 to 18 weeks. That's when it shines. For a start, 700 is just fine. Took me 3 runs with primo to get to a gram.

Read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...into-your-dose!!

[rxdrugs36]

Would it be smart to change it to extend my cycle to16 weeks toget a better effect o the primo? so like
Week 2-18 Test 500mg
Week 2-18 Primo 600mg
Week 1-18 Exemestane 12.5mg ED
Week 1-26 Finasteride 1mg ED
Week Week 19, start HCG for 10 straight days at 500 ius a day
Week 20-24 Clomid 100/100/50/50
Week 20-26 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20

[human project]

Would it be smart to change it to extend my cycle to16 weeks toget a better effect o the primo? so like
Week 2-18 Test 500mg
Week 2-18 Primo 600mg
Week 1-18 Exemestane 12.5mg ED
Week 1-26 Finasteride 1mg ED
Week Week 19, start HCG for 10 straight days at 500 ius a day
Week 20-24 Clomid 100/100/50/50
Week 20-26 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20

I would spread the hcg out take 250-500mcg every 4-6 days

[firstcycle21]

I dont even know if doing HCG is worth it since it isnt a heavy cycle and so would 16 weeks yield better and more retainable results?

[human project]

I dont even know if doing HCG is worth it since it isnt a heavy cycle and so would 16 weeks yield better and more retainable results?

Your over a gram of aaa so your defiantly shut down. IMO that's heavy enough of a cycle for hcg . Why ever let yourself fully shut down if you don't need to. Too much hcg can cause many different issues. Using a very little amount can go a long way. Start low you can always bump up the dose.

[firstcycle21]

Okay so your suggesting 250IUS HCG every 5 days for the entire cycle up until PCT?

[human project]

Okay so your suggesting 250IUS HCG every 5 days for the entire cycle up until PCT?

Yes. Most opt with 500mcg shots but with the risk of desensitization of lydig cells why go with anymore then the least that works. I notice all the same benefits with 250mcg as I do with 500mcg. Usually when I go 500mcg or higher I'm more susceptible to estrogen problems "bloat, gyno, acne".

[firstcycle21]

Will that help me after cycle to remain at maximum test levels?

[Samialfa1]

what if u going only for 6 weeks and u will run it for 400 test e and 300 primo every week and then from the 4 th week hgr ( somatropin) will be involved all I am askin how did u dealt with the water retention of the test can u can elemanat this by diet and cardio cause this is what concerns me about the test e and does the primo and somatropin will elemenate this And how does the test e worked with fat and the pct when it works during the course does it control the water retention

[Back In Black]

what if u going only for 6 weeks and u will run it for 400 test e and 300 primo every week and then from the 4 th week hgr ( somatropin) will be involved all I am askin how did u dealt with the water retention of the test can u can elemanat this by diet and cardio cause this is what concerns me about the test e and does the primo and somatropin will elemenate this And how does the test e worked with fat and the pct when it works during the course does it control the water retention

Dammit man, again, start your own thread!!!!