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    accidental water in oil

    Probably like 4 units of liquid oral winnstrol got mixed into my tren ace, is that the end of the world or is it just gonna suck injecting it? it's a 10 ml vial

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    Gotta ask.....how??

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    lol. What the heck is a unit? Should be fine.

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    No it won't be fine IMO

    A liquid oral is not sterile, nor is it clean.... You would need to filter in with a 0.22 filter and then autoclave it in a pressure cooker to be safe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    No it won't be fine IMO

    A liquid oral is not sterile, nor is it clean.... You would need to filter in with a 0.22 filter and then autoclave it in a pressure cooker to be safe...
    I think he means he is drinking the injectable. That's the only way I could think that he mixed it into a vial. In that case, he would be fine.

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    4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I think he means he is drinking the injectable. That's the only way I could think that he mixed it into a vial. In that case, he would be fine.
    I don't think so... Re-read

    I think he has some oral winni in his tren ace and wants to inject the tren ace...

    OP am I correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle
    Injectable winny is drinkable. Did it come in a sterile vial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle
    It doesn't work like that... Nothing we eat is sterile... Not to a pharmaceutical grade anyway... If its oral winni (not injectable that your just taking orally) then it will not be sterile.... If you have that oral winni in your tren ace your tren ace is likely to be contaminated...

    I'm talking liquid winni

    Not injectable winni take orally (since this should be sterile)

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    If it is an injectable that was in a vial then fine!

    If it was oral from a bottle then I would not.

    Quite honestly even from a vial I don't like the idea of injecting water based AAS due to the higher risk of infection caused by rapid bacteria growth in water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle
    Oh God, the old Bonaparte really wants to come out and play after that statement...

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    OK since I am not a monitor,

    Have you or your girlfriend ever engaged in oral sex?

    PS No disrespect to the op we all say stuff like that without really thinking it through....well maybe not all of us but I sure have!

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    So since the liquid oral winny isn't sterile I run the chance of infection? Even if it was less than 4 units? Diluted within a 10ml vial

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    So since the liquid oral winny isn't sterile I run the chance of infection? Even if it was less than 4 units? Diluted within a 10ml vial
    What do you mean by liquid winny bro. you're not answering the questions asked of you. Since you're unable to answer, can you post a picture of your "Liquid Winny"?

    ALL WINNY is or can be taken orally. What exactly do you have?

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    It's winny in liquid suspension form meant for oral use only.

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    It's contaminated most likely.

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    Even with it being such a small amount? What if I im it anyway, I run the risk of an abscess or other infections?

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    Bacteria can form very quickly in water. Your stomach can handle this bacteria but if injected could lead to a major infection. Toss it!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Probably like 4 units of liquid oral winnstrol got mixed into my tren ace, is that the end of the world or is it just gonna suck injecting it? it's a 10 ml vial
    Not the best of things to happen but it will most likely be fine.

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    do not use it its a loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN View Post
    Not the best of things to happen but it will most likely be fine.
    Sure, because that liquid winny isn't crawling with strep or anything...

    OP, you need a serious education in microbiology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    No it won't be fine IMO

    A liquid oral is not sterile, nor is it clean..
    .. You would need to filter in with a 0.22 filter and then autoclave it in a pressure cooker to be safe...
    what i was about to say!

    of it was liquid winny for oral use then you have to toss out all the tren now. unless you refilter but water and oil through filter i never did . only oil.

    why would you use the same needle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Even with it being such a small amount? What if I im it anyway, I run the risk of an abscess or other infections?
    only a small amount?
    dude just breathing on vial or needle can cause bacteria and infection.
    thats why you want no windows open and no drafts when drawing or pinning.

    it could have been an amount you could not even see (lucky you can) and it could still f you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN View Post
    Not the best of things to happen but it will most likely be fine.
    you dont understand its winny NOT MENT for injection. ment for oral use, but suspended in liquid.

    DONT USE IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop View Post
    you dont understand its winny NOT MENT for injection. ment for oral use, but suspended in liquid.

    DONT USE IT
    relax, brother.

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    More stories of ppl losing, throwing away and ruining tren on here...there should be a law and you should all be put to death!!!!!!!

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    Sorry I'm a little skeptical I shot black tar junk which was probably 20 percent motor oil and I never got an infection so it's hard for me to see how little water in oil could cause an infection. Appreciate your advice tho and will most likely be tossed damnit

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    It's not the water...it's the bacterial growth that occurs in water.

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    Does it matter at all that the liquid winny was boiled? does that kill any of the bacteria? Had to put it in boiling water because it had re crystallized

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    No...that would have never steralized it and honestly bacteria grows faster in warmer water lol.

    Feed that stuff to the squirrels man...see if they get any bigger

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    I'm definitely not going to use it I'm going to wait until I maybe figure out how to filter it because there's a round circle looking thing that looks ****ing nasty and my first shot my shoulder you can tell it's going to be okay but it's not normal pip. Tren is all cloudy and circle looks like a microbe or some shit. This was my first experience with anything besides oil and I will be much more careful not to mix anything ever again

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    Just wasted 50bux. Oh well maybe my liver or natural testosterone will thank me in the long run because of this mistake. This being my last cycle and just using peptides and HGH from now on

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    This is an area I am far from an expert in so maybe someone that knows better will correct me. I believe you would not only have to filter but aoutoclave the tren to sterilize???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    This is an area I am far from an expert in so maybe someone that knows better will correct me. I believe you would not only have to filter but aoutoclave the tren to sterilize???
    Yep....

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    Sounds like too much science and work

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Sounds like too much science and work
    Feed it to the ducks..buffest ducks in Florida!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Sorry I'm a little skeptical I shot black tar junk which was probably 20 percent motor oil and I never got an infection so it's hard for me to see how little water in oil could cause an infection. Appreciate your advice tho and will most likely be tossed damnit
    That was first heated with a butane flame and injected IV, where you have tons of WBCs circulating, ready to kill any pathogens. Your muscle is a much better environment for bacteria to grow in.

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    Does it matter at all that the liquid winny was boiled? does that kill any of the bacteria? Had to put it in boiling water because it had re crystallized
    If you boiled it for like 30 minutes, sure.

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    No...that would have never steralized it and honestly bacteria grows faster in warmer water lol.
    100 C will kill all living pathogens besides endospores (which aren't produced by the major bacteria in your mouth) and the ones that live on the ocean floor next to heat ducts.
    It won't sterilize, but it will certainly sanitize.
    And all bacteria grow best at 37 C (body temp) for obvious reasons. Most will quickly stop multiplying at around 40 C and only a few will do well in the 40s Celcius. A fever is your body's attempt at slowing infection by cranking up the temp to prevent the growth of pathogens.
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 11-02-2012 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    That was first heated with a butane flame and injected IV, where you have tons of WBCs circulating, ready to kill any pathogens. Your muscle is a much better environment for bacteria to grow in.



    If you boiled it for like 30 minutes, sure.



    100 C will kill all living pathogens (besides endospores, which aren't produced by the major bacteria in your mouth) and the ones that live on the ocean floor next to heat ducts.
    It won't sterilize, but it will certainly sanitize.
    And all bacteria grow best at 37 C (body temp) for obvious reasons. Most will quickly stop multiplying at around 40 C and only a few will do well in the 40s Celcius. A fever is your body's attempt at slowing infection by cranking up the temp to the growth of pathogens.
    Great info BP, always learning from you...

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    So your saying there's a chance.... Lol

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