accidental water in oil

**snowblowjoe** · 11-01-2012, 07:32 AM

Probably like 4 units of liquid oral winnstrol got mixed into my tren ace, is that the end of the world or is it just gonna suck injecting it? it's a 10 ml vial

**Lunk1** · 11-01-2012, 07:33 AM

Gotta ask.....how??

**austinite** · 11-01-2012, 07:34 AM

lol. What the heck is a unit? Should be fine.

**baseline_9** · 11-01-2012, 07:47 AM

No it won't be fine IMO

A liquid oral is not sterile, nor is it clean.... You would need to filter in with a 0.22 filter and then autoclave it in a pressure cooker to be safe...

**austinite** · 11-01-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

No it won't be fine IMO

A liquid oral is not sterile, nor is it clean.... You would need to filter in with a 0.22 filter and then autoclave it in a pressure cooker to be safe...

I think he means he is drinking the injectable. That's the only way I could think that he mixed it into a vial. In that case, he would be fine.

**snowblowjoe** · 11-01-2012, 09:28 AM

4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle

**baseline_9** · 11-01-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

I think he means he is drinking the injectable. That's the only way I could think that he mixed it into a vial. In that case, he would be fine.

I don't think so... Re-read

I think he has some oral winni in his tren ace and wants to inject the tren ace...

OP am I correct?

**austinite** · 11-01-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle

Injectable winny is drinkable. Did it come in a sterile vial?

**baseline_9** · 11-01-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle

It doesn't work like that... Nothing we eat is sterile... Not to a pharmaceutical grade anyway... If its oral winni (not injectable that your just taking orally) then it will not be sterile.... If you have that oral winni in your tren ace your tren ace is likely to be contaminated...

I'm talking liquid winni

Not injectable winni take orally (since this should be sterile)

**Lunk1** · 11-01-2012, 09:41 AM

If it is an injectable that was in a vial then fine!

If it was oral from a bottle then I would not.

Quite honestly even from a vial I don't like the idea of injecting water based AAS due to the higher risk of infection caused by rapid bacteria growth in water.

**Bonaparte** · 11-01-2012, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle

Oh God, the old Bonaparte really wants to come out and play after that statement...

**Far from massive** · 11-01-2012, 02:00 PM

OK since I am not a monitor,

Have you or your girlfriend ever engaged in oral sex?

PS No disrespect to the op we all say stuff like that without really thinking it through....well maybe not all of us but I sure have!

**snowblowjoe** · 11-01-2012, 07:10 PM

So since the liquid oral winny isn't sterile I run the chance of infection? Even if it was less than 4 units? Diluted within a 10ml vial

**austinite** · 11-01-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

So since the liquid oral winny isn't sterile I run the chance of infection? Even if it was less than 4 units? Diluted within a 10ml vial

What do you mean by liquid winny bro. you're not answering the questions asked of you. Since you're unable to answer, can you post a picture of your "Liquid Winny"?

ALL WINNY is or can be taken orally. What exactly do you have?

**snowblowjoe** · 11-01-2012, 08:51 PM

It's winny in liquid suspension form meant for oral use only.

**austinite** · 11-01-2012, 09:08 PM

It's contaminated most likely.

**snowblowjoe** · 11-01-2012, 09:12 PM

Even with it being such a small amount? What if I im it anyway, I run the risk of an abscess or other infections?

**Lunk1** · 11-01-2012, 09:16 PM

Bacteria can form very quickly in water. Your stomach can handle this bacteria but if injected could lead to a major infection. Toss it!!!!!!!

**frank13** · 11-01-2012, 09:30 PM

you got your peanut butter in my chocolate you got your chocolate in my peanut butter

**Ashop** · 11-01-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Probably like 4 units of liquid oral winnstrol got mixed into my tren ace, is that the end of the world or is it just gonna suck injecting it? it's a 10 ml vial

Not the best of things to happen but it will most likely be fine.

**frank13** · 11-01-2012, 10:06 PM

do not use it its a loss

**Bonaparte** · 11-02-2012, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by ALIN

Not the best of things to happen but it will most likely be fine.

Sure, because that liquid winny isn't crawling with strep or anything...

OP, you need a serious education in microbiology.

**Juced_porkchop** · 11-02-2012, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

No it won't be fine IMO

A liquid oral is not sterile, nor is it clean.... You would need to filter in with a 0.22 filter and then autoclave it in a pressure cooker to be safe...

what i was about to say!

of it was liquid winny for oral use then you have to toss out all the tren now. unless you refilter but water and oil through filter i never did . only oil.

why would you use the same needle?

**Juced_porkchop** · 11-02-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Even with it being such a small amount? What if I im it anyway, I run the risk of an abscess or other infections?

only a small amount?
dude just breathing on vial or needle can cause bacteria and infection.
thats why you want no windows open and no drafts when drawing or pinning.

it could have been an amount you could not even see (lucky you can) and it could still f you up.

**Juced_porkchop** · 11-02-2012, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by ALIN

Not the best of things to happen but it will most likely be fine.

you dont understand its winny NOT MENT for injection. ment for oral use, but suspended in liquid.

DONT USE IT

**austinite** · 11-02-2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

you dont understand its winny NOT MENT for injection. ment for oral use, but suspended in liquid.

DONT USE IT

relax, brother.

**Lunk1** · 11-02-2012, 09:00 AM

More stories of ppl losing, throwing away and ruining tren on here...there should be a law and you should all be put to death!!!!!!!

**snowblowjoe** · 11-02-2012, 09:02 AM

Sorry I'm a little skeptical I shot black tar junk which was probably 20 percent motor oil and I never got an infection so it's hard for me to see how little water in oil could cause an infection. Appreciate your advice tho and will most likely be tossed damnit

**Lunk1** · 11-02-2012, 09:08 AM

It's not the water...it's the bacterial growth that occurs in water.

**snowblowjoe** · 11-02-2012, 09:18 AM

Does it matter at all that the liquid winny was boiled? does that kill any of the bacteria? Had to put it in boiling water because it had re crystallized

**Lunk1** · 11-02-2012, 09:36 AM

No...that would have never steralized it and honestly bacteria grows faster in warmer water lol.

Feed that stuff to the squirrels man...see if they get any bigger

**snowblowjoe** · 11-02-2012, 09:56 AM

I'm definitely not going to use it I'm going to wait until I maybe figure out how to filter it because there's a round circle looking thing that looks ****ing nasty and my first shot my shoulder you can tell it's going to be okay but it's not normal pip. Tren is all cloudy and circle looks like a microbe or some shit. This was my first experience with anything besides oil and I will be much more careful not to mix anything ever again

**snowblowjoe** · 11-02-2012, 09:57 AM

Just wasted 50bux. Oh well maybe my liver or natural testosterone will thank me in the long run because of this mistake. This being my last cycle and just using peptides and HGH from now on

**Lunk1** · 11-02-2012, 10:00 AM

This is an area I am far from an expert in so maybe someone that knows better will correct me. I believe you would not only have to filter but aoutoclave the tren to sterilize???

**baseline_9** · 11-02-2012, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

This is an area I am far from an expert in so maybe someone that knows better will correct me. I believe you would not only have to filter but aoutoclave the tren to sterilize???

Yep....

**snowblowjoe** · 11-02-2012, 10:16 AM

Sounds like too much science and work

**Lunk1** · 11-02-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Sounds like too much science and work

Feed it to the ducks..buffest ducks in Florida!!

**Bonaparte** · 11-02-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Sorry I'm a little skeptical I shot black tar junk which was probably 20 percent motor oil and I never got an infection so it's hard for me to see how little water in oil could cause an infection. Appreciate your advice tho and will most likely be tossed damnit

That was first heated with a butane flame and injected IV, where you have tons of WBCs circulating, ready to kill any pathogens. Your muscle is a much better environment for bacteria to grow in.

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Does it matter at all that the liquid winny was boiled? does that kill any of the bacteria? Had to put it in boiling water because it had re crystallized

If you boiled it for like 30 minutes, sure.

Originally Posted by Lunk1

No...that would have never steralized it and honestly bacteria grows faster in warmer water lol.

100 C will kill all living pathogens besides endospores (which aren't produced by the major bacteria in your mouth) and the ones that live on the ocean floor next to heat ducts.
It won't sterilize, but it will certainly sanitize.
And all bacteria grow best at 37 C (body temp) for obvious reasons. Most will quickly stop multiplying at around 40 C and only a few will do well in the 40s Celcius. A fever is your body's attempt at slowing infection by cranking up the temp to prevent the growth of pathogens.

**baseline_9** · 11-02-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

4 units on an insulin syringe. I got the needles mixed up and used the wrong 1. And yes it was liquid Winnie that I would be drinking. If it's sterile enough to go through my mouth why isn't it sterile enough to be put into my muscle

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Oh God, the old Bonaparte really wants to come out and play after that statement...

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

That was first heated with a butane flame and injected IV, where you have tons of WBCs circulating, ready to kill any pathogens. Your muscle is a much better environment for bacteria to grow in.

If you boiled it for like 30 minutes, sure.

100 C will kill all living pathogens (besides endospores, which aren't produced by the major bacteria in your mouth) and the ones that live on the ocean floor next to heat ducts.
It won't sterilize, but it will certainly sanitize.
And all bacteria grow best at 37 C (body temp) for obvious reasons. Most will quickly stop multiplying at around 40 C and only a few will do well in the 40s Celcius. A fever is your body's attempt at slowing infection by cranking up the temp to the growth of pathogens.

Great info BP, always learning from you...