Test e or p

[mikey hulk]

Should I run long or short esters for my second cycle? My first cycle was test e 500mg for 12 weeks pinning is not a problem any thoughts?

[MickeyKnox]

Stick with what works.

If youre ok with long esters, then keep going with them. No reason to change.

[austinite]

I like long esters Goooooooooo Milky!

[mikey hulk]

Milky??
I have no problem with long esters I'm just interested in short as well

[austinite]

LMAO. sorry. Spell checker. Goooooooooo Mikey!!!!!!!!!

[Sworder]

Do a 8 weeker with Test P then! Hopefully you will track your progress Mikey!

Kicks in faster and you can start PCT quicker.

[Wes201]

When i hear people talk about prop. I think what i've heard people say is " quick in, and quick out" Does that mean that it is faster acting, like it starts to work right away as soon as you pin, and then its out of your system shortly after and stops working just as quickly. Like there is no half life? Is that what the difference is with prop vs cyp and eth? Sorry if anyone feels like im thread jacking, i just figured my question is in the same ball park.

[MickeyKnox]

Do a 8 weeker with Test P then! Hopefully you will track your progress Mikey!

Kicks in faster and you can start PCT quicker.

OR....you can stick to your desired 12wk'rs, drop the long ester the last two wks, and finish up with prop for a three day wait to PCT.

[austinite]

OR....you can stick to your desired 12wk'rs, drop the long ester the last two wks, and finish up with prop for a three day wait to PCT.

I like that.

[MickeyKnox]

When i hear people talk about prop. I think what i've heard people say is " quick in, and quick out" Does that mean that it is faster acting, like it starts to work right away as soon as you pin, and then its out of your system shortly after and stops working just as quickly. Like there is no half life? Is that what the difference is with prop vs cyp and eth? Sorry if anyone feels like im thread jacking, i just figured my question is in the same ball park.

Prop has a three day ester, and enth and cyp have 14-18 day esters. With the three day ester you're in the cycle quicker, and out to PCT quicker.

[MickeyKnox]

I like that.

Yeah its pretty slick. I did that last time and ill be doing it again this time around. Ill never finish a long ester again without prop at the end.

[The Titan99]

Ronnie Rowland suggested to me to run both. Since I usually blast/cruise I run 400 mg Test E continually and then run Test P or A along with whatever, usually for 8 weeks on 2 weeks off. A long time ago I was running Test A/Tren A/Masteron P, all short esters. My cycle ended on a Friday and Monday when I went to the gym it was AMAZING the amount of strength I lost!! Put my warm up weight on the decline bench and struggled so badly I thought I'd made a dangerous weighting mistake!!!

I'd like to stress that I'm 47 years old and DO NOT do PCT anymore, but am on TRT/HRT for the rest of my life. This is definitely NOT the way to go for a younger guy or anyone who may even remotely be considering having kids in the future...

[unixpro]

why not both? say 60% e and 40% p or something to that effect? I personally love Propionate.

[MickeyKnox]

why not both? say 60% e and 40% p or something to that effect? I personally love Propionate.

This isn't a milkshake?? You either choose a long ester or a short one. Not both together otherwise bloods will be up and down like a whores pants on a sat night.

[The Titan99]

This isn't a milkshake?? You either choose a long ester or a short one. Not both together otherwise bloods will be up and down like a whores pants on a sat night.

How would that happen? Then again I live in Thailand so up and down with the whores pants are probably a different story here!! LOL!!

[The Titan99]

Oh... Maybe you mean if you were to shoot both esters on say Monday and Thursday. I do the E twice a week and the Prop or Ace ed. I've been doing this for years and I can tell you there's not a thing wrong with it, blood levels or in any other way...

[mikey hulk]

Thanks all for the input

[MickeyKnox]

Oh... Maybe you mean if you were to shoot both esters on say Monday and Thursday. I do the E twice a week and the Prop or Ace ed. I've been doing this for years and I can tell you there's not a thing wrong with it, blood levels or in any other way...

His reference was 60/40. I agree with the protocol you layed out.

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks all for the input

Youre welcome "Milky" lol

[MuscleInk]

I like long esters Goooooooooo Milky!

Sounds to me like Austinite is likely dunking some Oreos.

[Lunk1]

I actually prefer to start my Test E cycle with prop AND end it with prop. Faster start up and quicker to get on PCT!!!

[mikey hulk]

How would u break that down lunk

[MickeyKnox]

I actually prefer to start my Test E cycle with prop AND end it with prop. Faster start up and quicker to get on PCT!!!

I would rather start with an oral than introduce more test in to my system. All that does for me is increase sides, so the added benefit to beginning a cycle with prop is not worth it, imho. Again, this is just my opinion.

[Lunk1]

How would u break that down lunk

It would depend on the Test E dose you are planning!

Like Mick pointed out below it is impossible to not cause a bit of fluctuation in this method but it has never been to a degree that I have noticed it and it's nice to get that test working in 7 days or so vs 4 weeks or better.

[mikey hulk]

I'm planing on 500 mg week

[kmms]

pretty sure at this point that my second cycle, next year, will be basically a carbon copy of my first test e/dbol but with the substitution of prop for e the last couple of weeks as indicated above.

two weeks sitting around with nothing on the schedule is kind of a pain in the ass after 12 weeks of a full schedule.