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    2nd cycle need help

    I just bought 1 bottle of dbol 15mg
    1 bottle of deca 250
    2 bottles of test propionate 100
    2 bottles of trenbolone acetate 100
    and clomid for pct

    I'm 6.2
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    training for 4 years

    My first cycle was dbol with test enathate 100 and deca 200 for 10 weeks the dbol for 4 weeks followed by pct.

    What would be the best way to take my second cycle for 12 weeks.

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    Welcome iron!

    This would be a very short cycle Too short, really. How come you purchased so little? Are you on TRT?

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    what he said. I am assuming 10ml bottles?
    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Welcome iron!

    This would be a very short cycle Too short, really. How come you purchased so little? Are you on TRT?

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    maybe a 6 week cycle of prop and dbol ??

    also you need to get yourself an AI and some nolva

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    I was planning on doing 6 weeks of dbol 15mg 3 times a day
    then for the first 3 weeks i'll take all 3 1cc of each on mondays
    but then i take all 3 1cc of each on mondays and on friday i take test prop with tren ace 1cc of each, so the deca is only once per week, is this good
    followed by pct.

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    Gotchya. Well, always account for some shortage, too.

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    how can it be short the bottles are 10ml each i have 1 of deca and 2 of each of tren and test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    how can it be short the bottles are 10ml each i have 1 of deca and 2 of each of tren and test?
    sometimes the vials aren't exactly 10ml...

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    Not all are exactly 10 ML, some gear stays in pin, unless you push it with excess air in the syringe. But then you're pinning more than your measurement. If your gear is EXACTLY enough for 6 weeks, chances are you're going to be short. This is why you always purchase more than you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    how can it be short the bottles are 10ml each i have 1 of deca and 2 of each of tren and test?
    You don't usually get 10ml in a 10ml bottle plus you will loos some extracting.

    I honk this is what austinite ment.

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    ^ kronik and gymfu -- good timing

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    give or take 1cc but what do u think of this cylce is it safe enough?

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    I'm not following your plan here. Are you planning on running only 100mg of test prop per week?

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    the 6 weeks is only with dbol caps

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    Well, you have 2 short esters and a super long ester. So........

    kinda makes the deca useless. I personally wouldnt recommend tren for a second cycle but what the hey... you have it. ARGH!

    Drop the deca and dbol .

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    test and tren 2 times a week for 7 weeks

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    No. Prop and Ace need to be injected at minimum every other day.

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    Welcome Iron.

    Can you write out your complete proposed cycle, including PCT, in the standard fashion so that we may better understand what youre goals are with the AAS you have on hand?

    Much appreciated.

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    ah but i bought it now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    ah but i bought it now lol
    Oh, is it about to expire? Dont worry about that, it will last for years.

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    Yes this is way confusing. I thought I was the only one!

    Like this

    100mg/week test prop
    100mg/week tren a
    45mg/day dbol , first 6 weeks

    Thanks

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    1-6 dbol 15 mg 3 times a day
    1-10 deca 250 but the first 3 weeks i'm taking it with test and tren 1cc of each on mondays
    then for the 7 weeks i'll be taking all 3 together 1cc of each on mondays but on friday it will be only test and tren 1cc of each and clomid after cycle 25 mg 2 times a day for 14 days i hope u understand its complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    1-6 dbol 15 mg 3 times a day
    1-10 deca 250 but the first 3 weeks i'm taking it with test and tren 1cc of each on mondays
    then for the 7 weeks i'll be taking all 3 together 1cc of each on mondays but on friday it will be only test and tren 1cc of each and clomid after cycle 25 mg 2 times a day for 14 days i hope u understand its complicated.
    I'm still confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    I'm still confused
    You started out good and then went back to the "with this and that on this day and that day"

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    Iron you need to get more gear. This is what I would do IF you insist on tren ...

    week 1 to 8 - Test Prop @ 100 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - Tren Ace @ 75 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - Arimidex @ 0.25 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly

    Take 3 days off from everything at this point.

    Now you can start PCT - clomid 100/50/50/50 and tamox 40/20/20/20
    No need for dbol , if you're doing it for a kickstart, well... your short esters will kick in fast enough. Deca is a long ester. Save it for later, you woul dhave to run it for 10 to 12 weeks, which in your case would leave you without Test, which is essential when running other compounds.

    Best of luck to you.

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    I know i'm sorry i just want to know the best way of taking all this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    I know i'm sorry i just want to know the best way of taking all this stuff.
    Posted above

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Iron you need to get more gear. This is what I would do IF you insist on tren ...

    week 1 to 8 - Test Prop @ 100 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - Tren Ace @ 75 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - Arimidex @ 0.25 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly

    Take 3 days off from everything at this point.

    Now you can start PCT - clomid 100/50/50/50 and tamox 40/20/20/20
    No need for dbol , if you're doing it for a kickstart, well... your short esters will kick in fast enough. Deca is a long ester. Save it for later, you woul dhave to run it for 10 to 12 weeks, which in your case would leave you without Test, which is essential when running other compounds.

    Best of luck to you.
    ^^^^Stick with this. Great protocol and is in your best interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Iron you need to get more gear. This is what I would do IF you insist on tren ...

    week 1 to 8 - Test Prop @ 100 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - Tren Ace @ 75 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - Arimidex @ 0.25 EOD
    week 1 to 8 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly

    Take 3 days off from everything at this point.

    Now you can start PCT - clomid 100/50/50/50 and tamox 40/20/20/20
    No need for dbol , if you're doing it for a kickstart, well... your short esters will kick in fast enough. Deca is a long ester. Save it for later, you woul dhave to run it for 10 to 12 weeks, which in your case would leave you without Test, which is essential when running other compounds.

    Best of luck to you.
    Bingo! You owe Aust two cold pints. Pay the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Bingo! You owe Aust two cold pints. Pay the man.
    Send Oreos. That's his "sweet" spot.

    How pathetic is it I'm in the gym Saturday night and checking threads between sets???

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    i dont think he has enough test for 8 weeks, only 6...

    2x 10ml prop 100mg/ml, 100mg EOD is like 6 weeks...

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    I dont think i could get arimidex did u ever hear of nolvafin from musclesystems its from the states i could get that instead

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    What if i just take test and tren 1cc of each
    and the deac and dbol on another cycle

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    you can get Liquidex (arimidex ) and nolva from ar-r , just click the banner at the top of this page

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    What if i just take test and tren 1cc of each
    and the deac and dbol on another cycle
    how many dbol tabs you got? and they are 15mg each tab correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    What if i just take test and tren 1cc of each
    and the deac and dbol on another cycle
    What if? What if you just do it your way and post back here after your cycle and share your results with us.

    This is the stuff that drives Cape up a wall, and i get it now..

    Good luck Iron.

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    do they ship to Canada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    do they ship to Canada?
    yeah man

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Send Oreos. That's his "sweet" spot.

    How pathetic is it I'm in the gym Saturday night and checking threads between sets???
    You got that right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden1 View Post
    What if i just take test and tren 1cc of each
    and the deac and dbol on another cycle
    Deca and Dbol would require test, that is not optional if you want to function like a man.

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