First Cycle - could you critique and give any advice/pearls of wisdom please

[TheRozza333]

Hey guys im 20 years old (pretty young i know but its my decision and has been all i have thought about since i was like 18) been training for 2 years seriously. 5 foot 9. 170lbs. 11%bf.

Could you guys help me/critique my cycle please

not started first Cycle yet but it will be:
-dbol 25mgs per day weeks 1-4
-test e 500mgs per week weeks 1-12
-pct is clomid 100mgs weeks 15-17 then 50mgs weeks 17-19
-will have take arimidex 0.25mgs eod but will have enough for 0.5mgs eod in case its not enough

diet will consist of 4000-4500 calories with 300-350 grams of protein and 400-500 carbs and not really counting fats but will be fairly high also. Will be having loads of fibre and taking a multi also
Training 5 days per week:
-monday... legs
-tuesday... chest
-thursday... back
-friday... arms
-saturday... shoulders + chest (chest is my weak spot so training it twice per week)

Will be training like a total best. Every set till complete failure. 20-25 sets per workout (apart from arms cuz they are my strong point so i will train them 10-15 sets)

goals are to put on as much muscle mass as possible. Dont really care about strength gains or fat gains.

Thanks for any help you guys give

[mattymo86]

Sounds good I'd personally chuck some Decca in aswell but its up to you

[TheRozza333]

ye i originally was going to scrap the dbol and use deca but reading around the forums for a while allot of people claim that deca has long term effects on their libido and not sure i want to risk that to be honest.

[austinite]

^ no brother. That cycle is not a good beginner cycle (at all) . I have to get to work but I'm sure folks will chime in to help...

[MickeyKnox]

I would read this thread before you commit..

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UHBeIa7X_fs

But if youve already made up your mind, check these out for a Common Beginners Cycles..

Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

I would add hCG to your cycle and back your PCT off a bit.

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

[fit2bOld]

Add nolva to the PCT 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25

Will have a better result using both clomid and nolva, and with 500 mg of test for a first cycle the lower dose of clomid will be enough.
You could save the D-bol for later.

That said, Please consider that your body is a muscle making machine at 20 and by doing the proper diet and working out like an animal will get you the results your looking for regardless of AAS. Like to see another 20 lbs on you before for doing this.
Anyway you might want to post a current picture so we can see what you got for a base.

[austinite]

OP. just clarifying, you are 19 in your profile, is that accurate?

[Lunk1]

Regardless of your age, drop the dbol and run one compound for your first cycle...it's the only way of determining the cause of side effects.

You really need Nolva in your PCT...Clomid by it's self is not adequite enough in my opinion.

If you need mor AI or PCT they can be purchased fom the banner at the top.

All od this aside...you really should consider waiting as cycling at your age can cause permenent damage to your endo system and TRT at 20 mat be required! Not good!

[fit2bOld]

Not a good link....this guy is fishing/scamming

[ppwc1985]

Op right not just skip the gear at your age considering you have all the test you need. If you aren't making gains you try to bring those sets way down. You most likely overtraining which a lot ppl do. For you big bp try no more than 12-15 sets, for little ones like arms keep it to 9 considering they get alot work through the rest of your workout. Good luck

[TheRozza333]

no I'm 20... july 3rd 1992

[Lunk1]

no I'm 20... july 3rd 1992

Is there anyway we could get you to consider tweeking diet and excercise and seeing if your goals can be reached without AAS use at your age??

[TheRozza333]

to be honest i dont understand the argument that because I'm a young guy i have all the test i need compared to somebody older. The difference in average testosterone for a 20 and a 30 year old man is around 0.8 PG/ML which isnt going to make that big of a difference in terms of muscle growth

[Lunk1]

to be honest i dont understand the argument that because I'm a young guy i have all the test i need compared to somebody older. The difference in average testosterone for a 20 and a 30 year old man is around 0.8 PG/ML which isnt going to make that big of a difference in terms of muscle growth

It's an issue with your HPTA sytem not fully being developed and the fact that you could likely cause damage that is permenent. This could result in life long issues such as high BP, ED, low test leading to life long TRT use.

The reality is that men start LOSING that test at around age 30...I myself didnt touch AAS till 35 when I felt that my ability to make gains had finally slowed!

Until then I never looked to AAS to cheat my way to my goals. I was a slob at 6ft 280+ pounds. Now I am (still 6ft) 235 with the body of a Greek God (kidding). But Most of my transformation was all natty!