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    Smile Test E , Dbol, Winstrol Cycle HELP

    Hi Guys, I'm 24 years old 74 kg 174 cm height and I did a 4 weeks cycle of sustanon when I was 20 and it was a waste because I didn't know what to do...
    Now I wanna do a Test E,dbol and winstrol cycle as below:

    week 1-12 Test E 500/week
    week 1-5 Dbol 20mg/every day
    week 11-14 Winstrol 50mg/every other day

    week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg/everyday
    week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg/everyday

    Can please help me on this cycle? is it good or should I change something?
    what supplement should I use with this cycle? protein with carbo? creatine? amino pills? glutamine?

    I realy need some pro advise.
    Thank you

    Sinati

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    What are your goals? Use of 2 orals and 2 compounds you have not tried is not the best idea...Your also missing clomid from your PCT, I don't see an AI or HCG ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    What are your goals? Use of 2 orals and 2 compounds you have not tried is not the best idea...Your also missing clomid from your PCT, I don't see an AI or HCG??
    My goals are to gain size and muscles and also cut at the end of the cycle, I did not know I should us clomid and HCG because after alot of search I managed this cycle from this very site in beginner-steroid -cycles here!!

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    Yea you need an AI.

    What is your BF%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinati View Post
    Hi Guys, I'm 24 years old 74 kg 174 cm height and I did a 4 weeks cycle of sustanon when I was 20 and it was a waste because I didn't know what to do...
    Now I wanna do a Test E,dbol and winstrol cycle as below:

    week 1-12 Test E 500/week
    week 1-5 Dbol 20mg/every day
    week 11-14 Winstrol 50mg/every other day

    week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg/everyday
    week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg/everyday

    Can please help me on this cycle? is it good or should I change something?
    what supplement should I use with this cycle? protein with carbo? creatine? amino pills? glutamine?

    I realy need some pro advise.
    Thank you

    Sinati
    I honestly think since u messed up on your first cycle, you should go into this one the right way. Start off with a standard beginners cycle.

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    I agree test only 500mg a week.Adex as your Ai .25 eod to start.Pct nova and clomid HCG 250ius 2x week.And before you start hit the diet section and have your diet checked out.Run this cycle 12 weeks.

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    Songdog gave you your best and safest cycle layout.
    Please heed his advise.

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    sorry I dont know anything about my BF%, I dont know even how to measure it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinati View Post
    sorry I dont know anything about my BF%, I dont know even how to measure it!!
    post a few pics so we can see. or buy a set of skin-fold calipers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    I agree test only 500mg a week.Adex as your Ai .25 eod to start.Pct nova and clomid HCG 250ius 2x week.And before you start hit the diet section and have your diet checked out.Run this cycle 12 weeks.
    thank you for your advise when should I use clomid and HCG ? and AI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    What are your goals? Use of 2 orals and 2 compounds you have not tried is not the best idea...Your also missing clomid from your PCT, I don't see an AI or HCG??
    I wanna gain size and muscles and cut at the end of the cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    post a few pics so we can see. or buy a set of skin-fold calipers.
    ok I'll try to post some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    I agree test only 500mg a week.Adex as your Ai .25 eod to start.Pct nova and clomid HCG 250ius 2x week.And before you start hit the diet section and have your diet checked out.Run this cycle 12 weeks.
    what about Amino? protein with carbo powder? glutamine? creatine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Songdog gave you your best and safest cycle layout.
    Please heed his advise.
    what about Amino? protein with carbo powder? glutamine? creatine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80 View Post
    I honestly think since u messed up on your first cycle, you should go into this one the right way. Start off with a standard beginners cycle.
    okik thank you

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